Quote Originally Posted by Singularity View Post
I dispute statistic, assertions...
The context you're using to dispute the points is valid. But I don't think it's a fair representation of the issue.

I agree with what you say about the majority of users on the whole.

But what we're talking is an issue that stems from people being dishonest about their abilities and sneaking into PFs without heeding the descriptions.

It's my contention that the number of people who do this are already a small minority of the whole population.

Like this:

Some PFs exist without issue.
Some PFs have a dishonesty-problem.
Of the PFs that have a dishonesty-problem, it's usually only 1 dink who's trying to sneak in.

Do you dispute this data?

This data would suggest that the number of dishonest people trying to sneak into PFs is about 10% of the population. (1 in 8 is 12.5 %)

The majority points you use to disregard my statements doesn't seem to take this into account.

What you need to do is look at the people who are dishonest (10% or so of the population) and then see how many of those would be prevented from entering a no-bonus PF. Keep in mind, that a dishonest person can still get an eventual clear and still be dishonest and join your no-bonus blocked PF eventually anyway. Since even a lucky clear is "inevitable" this no-bonus PF block mathematically does nothing except delay the issue by a few days until the dishonest person can get a clear and sneak in anyway.

It's a waste of time.