FF14 possibly coming to XBox-1!?

[Kaurie]

playerbase 'can we have [insert request here]'?
Yoshi 'Sorry, we cannot add that due to [xbox] limitations'

Please look forward to it.

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Oh yay...another console adding restrictions. Instead of getting rid of PS3 and the "limitation" excuse, we add yet another console that will get outdated in no time and then be used as limitation excuse.

I hope it won't happen.

Oh damn you beat me to it by 5 mins

[xxAtticusxx]

playerbase 'can we have [insert request here]'?
Yoshi 'Sorry, we cannot add that due to [xbox] limitations'

Please look forward to it.

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Oh damn you beat me to it by 5 mins

The Xbox One is only slightly less powerful than the PS4, both of which are far more powerful than the lowest spec PC that can run this game. Once PS3 is removed, it'll actually be low and mid-end PCs that will keep the game back. Also, the limitations of the PS3 were mostly due to the 512MB of RAM. Both the Xbox One and PS4 have 8GB, so it becomes a non-issue.

[Kaurie]

The Xbox One is only slightly less powerful than the PS4, both of which are far more powerful than the lowest spec PC that can run this game. Once PS3 is removed, it'll actually be low and mid-end PCs that will keep the game back. Also, the limitations of the PS3 were mostly due to the 512MB of RAM. Both the Xbox One and PS4 have 8GB, so it becomes a non-issue.

haha i am well aware of their specs It was mostly a joke. To be honest, all of the 'ps3 limitations' 'server limitations' stuff just makes me think the dev team are inefficient with their programming. Better systems existed on machines a decade ago.

That said, both Xbox One and PS4 are fairly outdated in terms of hardware. They run very similar GPU's reasonably equivalent of my old card a Radeon HD 7870 - which was a middle range card 4 years ago.

[Chessala]

The Xbox One is only slightly less powerful than the PS4, both of which are far more powerful than the lowest spec PC that can run this game. Once PS3 is removed, it'll actually be low and mid-end PCs that will keep the game back. Also, the limitations of the PS3 were mostly due to the 512MB of RAM. Both the Xbox One and PS4 have 8GB, so it becomes a non-issue.

Thing is, they won't care about low-end PCs as it does not require them to make a completely different version of the game. They already do not care about low-end PCs, which is just fine. If you can not run the game on your PC, it is your responsibility to upgrade. If you can't, well that is tough luck for you, upgrade your machine. However, you don't really have possibilities to effectively upgrade a console. Consoles are very static in their specs and therefore add extreme limitations to the game. I am only referring to the PS3 here as we all know the PS4 is decent enough, at least until the next PS comes out.

In either case, low-end PCs will never hold back the game as much as the PS3 currently does. However, for the devs the PS3 is a convenient excuse to not step up their game.

[ruskie]

To be honest, all of the 'ps3 limitations' 'server limitations' stuff just makes me think the dev team are inefficient with their programming. Better systems existed on machines a decade ago.

To be honest been seeing this in a lot of programs anyway. They just keep getting fatter and fatter. While you could do amazing things with like 32mbs of ram now-a-days you need 32 gbs of ram to do similary amazing things at times.

But do hope when PS5 or whatever it'll be called FFXIV will be made available for it as well - with a similar transition option as the PS3 to PS4.

[Evangela]

I will unsubscribe if I have to play with Xbox users.

[pauleta]

as long as the publisher chooses. that's the keyword. if lets say EA says no to battlefield playing with ps4, then it won't be cross platform.

[Kosmos992k]

Reading in the news right now at Microsoft is finally opening up their systems to allow cross-platform play with PC and PS4 (if Sony agree to it) starting with Rocket League on the XB1..

Sony already allows it...said the PS4 and PS3 user who plays FFXIV with other platforms...

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...still wondering why this is considered ground breaking news.

Edit: It's interesting to note that PS4 and PC players already play together on Rocket league. The lack of a single central player ID/Account prevents some elements of partying up from being cross platform, but the matchmaking is. So, when Xbox One players get there, they'll run into PS4 players as well.

as long as the publisher chooses. that's the keyword. if lets say EA says no to battlefield playing with ps4, then it won't be cross platform.

Sony took the stance (when it released PS4) that it was up to the developers to decide whether or not they implemented multi-player within PSN & PS Plus services or using their own infrastructure.

If the game uses Sony infrastructure for anything other than authentication and checking that the game is licensed, it will require PS Plus, and that would require some bridging because it's happening on Sony's network.

If the game only uses PSN for authentication and license checking but the multi-player is peer to peer or uses 3rd party servers (like FFXIV) then multi-player doesn't require PS Plus, and the ability to cross play is determined by the developer and their infrastructure.

PS3 & PS4 have always had open access to the Internet facilitating cross play from Day 1 - if the developer supports it.

That said, both Xbox One and PS4 are fairly outdated in terms of hardware. They run very similar GPU's reasonably equivalent of my old card a Radeon HD 7870 - which was a middle range card 4 years ago.

PS4's GPU has a unified cache and 50% more compute units.

Oh, one thing that might be more interesting going forward for all players of PC/Xbox games. Microsoft already has an Xbox App running under windows. Xbox One uses an OS based on an embedded version of Windows. Microsoft's Universal Windows Platform (UWP) & Open Windows Platform is aimed at making applications a little more platform agnostic between PC and Xbox and any other device capable of running the RunTime environment. This blurs the lines further between Xbox and PC. Architecturally Xbox is a PC, and already runs a version of Windows. The Next Xbox may very well be your PC running a much expanded Xbox application that makes use of the whole UWP concept to virtualize the Xbox itself within the Windows running PC. In essence that would make Xbox and PC gaming synonymous, and would make cross-play even easier than it is today, as long as Windows gaming did not become locked into a proprietary UWP network.

[RocheKat]

The only issues FFXIV has because of the PS3 is UI stuff and that is only because they don't want an unfair advantage. I expect by the next expansion they will stop caring that the PS3 can't keep up.

The Xbox is plenty powerful enough to run FFXIV and not restrict it. I still don't understand how people who say they know so much about computers don't understand the difference between consoles and PCs. Yes consoles run on older hardware but they are designed for gaming and gaming only. They don't have to run a resource hog of an OS in the background. On top of that the engine can be optimized far better for a console than it ever could be for a PC because PCs are running different OSes, on different CPUs with different GPUs and different levels of RAM.

You can also bet they will not be pushing the game past its current base requirements because that could mean losing subscribers. Extra eye candy that is unlikely to increase sales at the cost of development time and paying customers just isn't something developers are into.

[Kosmos992k]

The only issues FFXIV has because of the PS3 is UI stuff and that is only because they don't want an unfair advantage. I expect by the next expansion they will stop caring that the PS3 can't keep up.
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You can also bet they will not be pushing the game past its current base requirements because that could mean losing subscribers. Extra eye candy that is unlikely to increase sales at the cost of development time and paying customers just isn't something developers are into.

Definitely. PS4 & Xbox are both more powerful than the minimum PC spec for FFXIV.