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    Ossom Possom
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    Quote Originally Posted by Transfinite View Post
    Also the world first group that cleared A8S had a Monk instead of a Dragoon.

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    Lol was making a joke, I could not car less what comp the world first groups go with.
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    Kaden Sun
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ossom View Post
    Lol was making a joke, I could not car less what comp the world first groups go with.
    The reason its a big deal on my server is static recruitment suddenly changed from: "Static looking for Drg or Nin for Savage progression" to "Static looking for Drg, Nin, or Mnk for Savage progression."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Transfinite View Post
    The reason its a big deal on my server is static recruitment suddenly changed from: "Static looking for Drg or Nin for Savage progression" to "Static looking for Drg, Nin, or Mnk for Savage progression."
    Doubt you would wanna run with people who just worship whatever combination some world first group uses. It's cool to try and mimic a mechanic or build they do to make your group better. But to change your group completely or replace members because some other group cleared the content that way is laughable.

    Elysium would have downed A8s whether they switched that Monk to a different melee or not.
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    Klarity Sincerity
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    Lamia
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ossom View Post
    Doubt you would wanna run with people who just worship whatever combination some world first group uses. It's cool to try and mimic a mechanic or build they do to make your group better. But to change your group completely or replace members because some other group cleared the content that way is laughable.

    Elysium would have downed A8s whether they switched that Monk to a different melee or not.
    I don't think this can be stressed enough... Stay away from anyone that thinks content can't be done unless you use Strat XY with Classes A, B and D. It is true of pretty much every MMO as well.

    World first groups are often doing content with gear levels lower than the content was intended to be run with which means they are going to use strats and comps that are not always best. Then there is stuff like MrHappy and GarudaEX... I could have slapped him for the nightmare he created for melee on that fight.
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    Mike Fisticuffison
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    Famfrit
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    Quote Originally Posted by RocheKat View Post
    I don't think this can be stressed enough... Stay away from anyone that thinks content can't be done unless you use Strat XY with Classes A, B and D. It is true of pretty much every MMO as well.

    World first groups are often doing content with gear levels lower than the content was intended to be run with which means they are going to use strats and comps that are not always best. Then there is stuff like MrHappy and GarudaEX... I could have slapped him for the nightmare he created for melee on that fight.
    Couldn't agree more.

    Too bad my server didn't get the memo.
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    Eugene Tracewood
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    Midgardsormr
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    Monk Lv 92
    Quote Originally Posted by RocheKat View Post
    I don't think this can be stressed enough... Stay away from anyone that thinks content can't be done unless you use Strat XY with Classes A, B and D. It is true of pretty much every MMO as well.

    World first groups are often doing content with gear levels lower than the content was intended to be run with which means they are going to use strats and comps that are not always best. Then there is stuff like MrHappy and GarudaEX... I could have slapped him for the nightmare he created for melee on that fight.
    What exactly did he say? I came back a couple months before Heavensward. Is it one of those "take only BRD/BLM jobs to everything" mentality that ran rampant in the early days of ARR?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tracewood View Post
    What exactly did he say? I came back a couple months before Heavensward. Is it one of those "take only BRD/BLM jobs to everything" mentality that ran rampant in the early days of ARR?
    He created a "take only Brd/Blm/Smn job to gardua ex" mentality by making it sound like his teams strat was the best... and the only way of doing the fight. The problem was the strat he showed (and everyone insisted on using) sucked in general and it made Drg/Mnk lives hell. It was so bad that I used my poorly geared Pld instead of Mnk (second best geared monk on the server) for that fight just to keep from wanting to stab myself in the face.

    I think he does a better job now explaining there are other ways to do fights... and it wasn't his fault. Its just that sheep see something like his video on that fight and decide it is impossible to do the fight any other way. I had similar issues with Titan EX at first but on that fight I was able to force people to listen to me because the DPS checks where tight and I was the top dps and I never failed the mechanics.
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    Ricdeau Cyton
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    Gilgamesh
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    Monk Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by RocheKat View Post
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    Ugh, the Garuda EX parties when that first came out were so awful for melee. It's so annoying having to deal with the sheep mentality that only XYZ comp can be used, and only ABC strategy will work. So many people show very little effort when it comes to MMOs (maybe gaming in general...) these days it seems. I guess the general line of thinking by many is wait for the first winning strategy, and then that's it...nothing else works! If your class' playstyle doesn't fit that mold then get out!

    It's also funny when the meta changes slightly (new weapons, gear, echo, etc), and then people completely abandon viable ways of doing something because the new way "faster" or whatever else without regard to the composition of the party or party familiarity with the content. Such a roller coaster we live on.
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