Thread: Monk 3.0 CHAKRA UNLEASHED

Originally Posted by Jekyll

Just some additional info for those MNKs using tier IV materia until they can upgrade to Vs. From a damage perspective, DET falls behind SS for tier IV materia, so if you're using 4's as a filler, SS is the way to go. However, if you're using V's, DET definitely pulls ahead. Napkin math below:

Just out of curiosity how about Quick Arm V vs. Savage Might V?

Originally Posted by PROBOUND

Just out of curiosity how about Quick Arm V vs. Savage Might V?

That is the second half of my post. You're asking to compare SS V vs DET V materia. DET wins on tier V, SS wins on tier IV.

I guess a way to simplify this (comparing both IVs and Vs) would be:

DET IV < SS IV < SS V < CRIT IV < DET V < CRIT V

Added that to my original post.

Originally Posted by PROBOUND

Just out of curiosity how about Quick Arm V vs. Savage Might V?

The only reason Savage Might IV is behind Quick Arm IV is because rank IV materia was tuned prior to 3.0 so there was only +6 Det due to item budget vs +9 Acc/Crit/SS. Since Det was adjusted in 3.0 it's item budget is the same as the other stats which with the rank V materia also reflects. Savage Might I-IV not being adjusted so far is an oversight by SE. I keep hoping they fix it, but as they release new ranks of materia it will become a nonissue.

So long story short, Savage Might IV being worth less than Quick Arm IV is just a special case. When rank V materia is concerned it will follow the standard Crit > Det > SS when getting full value out of each since the budget is the same +12 for each.

Yeah it's personally an option I'd avoid just because I like having TP, but Quickarm IV has a really cheap, low-effort source (10% chance from Hinterlands Perch desynthesis, geared up lv 60 fisher retainer can bring back 10 / hr, frequent bycatch from blue scrip fishing). Sold a Savage Aim V for 4M after transmuting a bunch a few months ago, but never got another V again lol.

Thought about it, and this is what I came up with, let me know what you think.


PB > B4B > Demo > Snap > Snap > Steel Peak* > Dragon Kick > X-Pot > Twin > IR > ToD > Elixir > Bootshine > Howling > True > Forbidden > Demo > ST > Fracture > Dragon Kick


* : Couldn't find a better place to put the skill so I put it here.

Edit : Just tried it a few times, don't like the opener too much. Idk

Anyone here beat A6s Swindler? I'm wondering how peeps are faring against the second set of adds, the ranged ones that one shot peeps if they stay up too long. Right now I hold a Forbidden Chakra to ensure I can kill mine before it starts oneshotting peeps but I would rather use the FC when I have more buffs up for the gains. Anyone else doing something differently?

Nothing to serious, just wondering if any other Monks are holding FC for it or doubling up on an add or what.

Originally Posted by Rebellius555

Recently I just started experimenting with various openers and I'm just looking for something "comfortable". I tried the two suggested in the 1st post, but I'm still curious if there are any other "popular" openers I can play with.

Take the 2.0 Opener (don't use form shift at the start), if you start with PB > Snap > Snap > Demo, then before you reapply demo do a fracture. Otherwise if you do Demo > Snap > Snap then after you apply Demo and before you do Dragon Kick, do a Fracture. These are two rotations that I think most people are using. I personally do the former.

This will lower your burst a bit because you are changing an Early Snap (The last skill you use in PB) into an extremely late Fracture, but it should be a higher DPS plateau and you don't need to do 3 Form Shifts before every pull.

Originally Posted by Ossom

Anyone here beat A6s Swindler? I'm wondering how peeps are faring against the second set of adds, the ranged ones that one shot peeps if they stay up too long. Right now I hold a Forbidden Chakra to ensure I can kill mine before it starts oneshotting peeps but I would rather use the FC when I have more buffs up for the gains. Anyone else doing something differently?

It dies quickly enough that I don't demolish it; I just snap punch. Internal Release lines up with its spawn for me.
Are your healers helping with DPS?

I only use FC on Swindler; if group DPS is high enough on it, you can actually skip double bio-atrithmetics