add an in game parser please!!!

[Hayward]

You act like caring about DPS and wanting to play your job correctly are mutually exclusive from 'playing for fun'.

Being at awful at something just isn't my cup of tea. Kudos to you if it's yours.

You'd be wrong to draw that conclusion. However, someone ruining other people's enjoyment based on the slightest difference in DPS would fit the description of hyper-competitive to the letter. I'm no different from many normal gamers when it comes to wanting to make improvements wherever I can. Where I part company is the "dodgeball" mentality that poisons online communities (and school communities, for that matter).

In short, I'm speaking about people who don't know--or, more likely, don't care about--the limits of competition.

[Whiteroom]

You'd be wrong to draw that conclusion. However, someone ruining other people's enjoyment based on the slightest difference in DPS would fit the description of hyper-competitive to the letter. I'm no different from many normal gamers when it comes to wanting to make improvements wherever I can. Where I part company is the "dodgeball" mentality that poisons online communities (and school communities, for that matter).

In short, I'm speaking about people who don't know--or, more likely, don't care about--the limits of competition.

Really, because it seems to be exactly what you said there... With a rather aggressive attitude as well... kind of a toxic one, almost like maybe a similar one to the one you are projecting on people who would like a tool for improvement maybe?

Also, what are your "limits of competition"? From what you wrote, I would guess fairly low.

[Andrea]

Really, because it seems to be exactly what you said there... With a rather aggressive attitude as well... kind of a toxic one, almost like maybe a similar one to the one you are projecting on people who would like a tool for improvement maybe?

Also, what are your "limits of competition"? From what you wrote, I would guess fairly low.

He comes across as being a hypocrite to me, but that may just be me..

[Colorful]

You'd be wrong to draw that conclusion. However, someone ruining other people's enjoyment based on the slightest difference in DPS would fit the description of hyper-competitive to the letter. I'm no different from many normal gamers when it comes to wanting to make improvements wherever I can. Where I part company is the "dodgeball" mentality that poisons online communities (and school communities, for that matter).

In short, I'm speaking about people who don't know--or, more likely, don't care about--the limits of competition.

There's a large difference between a slight difference in DPS, which people in this thread have openly said they do not care about and someone in full i210 doing 500 DPS. Before you say I'm exaggerating, no, I just witnessed someone in full i210 doing 500 DPS. You have to actively try to do that poorly.

[Ayuhra]

Before you say I'm exaggerating, no, I just witnessed someone in full i210 doing 500 DPS. You have to actively try to do that poorly.

That was me, sorry.

[Kuwagami]

There's a large difference between a slight difference in DPS, which people in this thread have openly said they do not care about and someone in full i210 doing 500 DPS. Before you say I'm exaggerating, no, I just witnessed someone in full i210 doing 500 DPS. You have to actively try to do that poorly.

doing 1-2-3 repeat as any melee job gives you more than 500 dps (tanks excluded because tanking stance, though some i210 tanks manage to go under 250 dps....). Even Ice mages can go above 700 dps.

Unless it's a "ruin only" smn, I'm not sure how you can achieve such a low dps without purposely spending full GCDs doing nothing. If anything, I'm impressed by the willpower of these players. It must be harder to be that bad than to perform on a good level on a regular basis.

[Colorful]

doing 1-2-3 repeat as any melee job gives you more than 500 dps (tanks excluded because tanking stance, though some i210 tanks manage to go under 250 dps....). Even Ice mages can go above 700 dps.

Unless it's a "ruin only" smn, I'm not sure how you can achieve such a low dps without purposely spending full GCDs doing nothing. If anything, I'm impressed by the willpower of these players. It must be harder to be that bad than to perform on a good level on a regular basis.

It was a Bard, can't say I know enough about the class to say how it was done. Considering it was Bismarck Extreme, I have to assume they've been farming for the mount for quite some time and resorted to watching Netflix/TV while clicking 1-1-1-1 over and over.

[Jamillion]

It was a Bard, can't say I know enough about the class to say how it was done. Considering it was Bismarck Extreme, I have to assume they've been farming for the mount for quite some time and resorted to watching Netflix/TV while clicking 1-1-1-1 over and over.

I'm not surprised it was a bard actually, now before anyone jumps down my throat, the reason I say that is that bards and machinists are the only classes that can completely disable their auto attacks, blm can do over 700 with just blizzard as Kuwagami noted and smn garuda can contribute enough DPS that ruin two spam alone should bring them over 500 in full 210.

[Ashkendor]

You'd be wrong to draw that conclusion. However, someone ruining other people's enjoyment based on the slightest difference in DPS would fit the description of hyper-competitive to the letter. I'm no different from many normal gamers when it comes to wanting to make improvements wherever I can. Where I part company is the "dodgeball" mentality that poisons online communities (and school communities, for that matter).

People have said multiple times that they don't care about slight differences in DPS, and they definitely aren't out to ruin someone's enjoyment over it. I know that there's a few people out there that will sit and berate others in stupid stuff like Expert dungeons for doing low DPS. Those people are few and far between, though. Most people that use parsers don't do that. At worst they roll their eyes, maybe bitch to their FC or linkshell a little about getting 'that guy' in DF. I know I don't speak up about people underperforming unless it's actually keeping us from clearing the content (yes, it's even happened in Expert Roulette).

In short, I'm speaking about people who don't know--or, more likely, don't care about--the limits of competition.

What you're doing is painting with a brush that's entirely too broad. Or you're backpedaling. I can't decide which.

He comes across as being a hypocrite to me, but that may just be me..

No, it's not just you.