Cleric Stance

[Duelle]

Like you say, healers are in a weird place. We're told that we don't have to dps, yet they train the newbies to do so. They tell us that we don't have to, but the dps checks in place insist on it. We are given low acc with no means to raise it other than to the detriment of our main purpose and yet they expect us to do what?

Well, the sources of the issues are non-cohesiveness between class and content design and the fact SCH was not really...corrected...when players started pumping out DPS with it back in ARR. Ability bloat plays into this too, because post-50 skills had the risk of being redundant if they had all been heals (which creates other issues like too much outgoing healing accessible to a healer, which then means everything has to deal more damage to balance that out).

The devs really need to sit down and look at what they want to get out of their healer paradigm, decide on a set of rules for their healing classes (and for once stick to them across all levels of design) and then make necessary changes on WHM, SCH and AST. Cleric Stance is more an accessory to the problem, and I feel it comes partly from the fact SCH is not as penalized as the other two healers. At least to my knowledge the fairy's healing potency is not nerfed the way WHM and AST are in Cleric Stance. Granted, I wouldn't have given SCH access to Cleric Stance in the first place and given it its own special stance with its own set of limitations.

[Nektulos-Tuor]

Well, the sources of the issues are non-cohesiveness between class and content design and the fact SCH was not really...corrected...when players started pumping out DPS with it back in ARR. Ability bloat plays into this too, because post-50 skills had the risk of being redundant if they had all been heals (which creates other issues like too much outgoing healing accessible to a healer, which then means everything has to deal more damage to balance that out).

The devs really need to sit down and look at what they want to get out of their healer paradigm, decide on a set of rules for their healing classes (and for once stick to them across all levels of design) and then make necessary changes on WHM, SCH and AST. Cleric Stance is more an accessory to the problem, and I feel it comes partly from the fact SCH is not as penalized as the other two healers. At least to my knowledge the fairy's healing potency is not nerfed the way WHM and AST are in Cleric Stance. Granted, I wouldn't have given SCH access to Cleric Stance in the first place and given it its own special stance with its own set of limitations.

Not true, other healers can lay down HOTs and go DPS. They also have to spam less skills then scholars do to get the most out of their damage because their skills do more damage literally.

If you nerf Scholar, I would nerf Paladins Clemency to heal 1/4 of what it does now.

[Niroken]

Not true, other healers can lay down HOTs and go DPS. They also have to spam less skills then scholars do to get the most out of their damage because their skills do more damage literally.

If you nerf Scholar, I would nerf Paladins Clemency to heal 1/4 of what it does now.

WHM DPS'ing is not as mana efficient compared to SCH as we are mainly burst damage, even if we had 100% accuracy the DPS is not sustainable. There is a reason why SCH is the go to healer for DPS.