Cleric Stance

[Ophie-Mio]

I'm really not sure why there's such a huge debate over whether or not healers should get an acc boost attached to their Cleric Stance. PLDs alone have an acc boost with their Shield Oath and yet no DPS here are bemoaning that.

Why so much hate for something that should be an obvious? SE already mentioned why they decided to take off acc from weapons. They also never addressed the issues about the lack of acc necessary for Savage and yet healer gear having absolutely none. A healer with no one to heal can stand around all they wish but if they wish to dps, then they should get the ability to do so.

Since we already have Cleric Stance that literally only does one thing (even the tank stances do more than one thing) why the hell not? Healers can't cleric stance in PvP and the boost that they give in content does nothing to disrupt the balance. DPS get acc on their gear. Saying that a healer should meld acc instead of their main secondary or primary stats is silly.

There's no reason why Cleric Stance can't have an acc boost similar to its Shield Oath cousin.

That falls under clause #2. It's still carrying if they can't do it without your assistance.

Also, it's not carrying. The DPS checks in Gordias were at such an extreme that EVERY bit of dps was necessary for early wins. It's not carrying when you need everyone to contribute.

[Thunda_Cat_SMASH]

This is an extremely silly thing to say.

At times can a healer help carry bad dps? Sure

But the ONLY reason for a healer to dps...no...just no

That's the only reason I ever see people say. ' ^'

"These DPS can't finish this run in X minutes if I don't DPS!"

"These DPS can't kill the boss if I don't DPS!"

"These DPS are undergeared so I have to DPS!"

So yeah, it's basically the only reason ever for a healer to DPS, No exceptions from what I've seen.

[Slappah]

That's the only reason I ever see people say. ' ^'

"These DPS can't finish this run in X minutes if I don't DPS!"

"These DPS can't kill the boss if I don't DPS!"

"These DPS are undergeared so I have to DPS!"

So yeah, it's basically the only reason ever for a healer to DPS, No exceptions from what I've seen.

Gordias Savage says hello

[Lillia]

That's the only reason I ever see people say. ' ^'

"These DPS can't finish this run in X minutes if I don't DPS!"

"These DPS can't kill the boss if I don't DPS!"

"These DPS are undergeared so I have to DPS!"

So yeah, it's basically the only reason ever for a healer to DPS, No exceptions from what I've seen.

If we have free time and the tank doesn't need heals for a moment then it takes away the necessary to heal for that moment, wasting mp to heal back 100~200 hp when a tank has over 21000 hp and isn't taking too much dmg or is gaining more hp back than he/she is losing from spells like regen is just silly.

I don't mind full-time healing but if I have time and the tank doesn't need heals, I'd rather be useful to my group than just standing around... good dps or bad doesn't change that.

[Thunda_Cat_SMASH]

Gordias Savage says hello

That falls under clause #2. It's still carrying if they can't do it without your assistance.

[NFaelivrin]

That falls under clause #2. It's still carrying if they can't do it without your assistance.

Gordias was mathematically unclearable for weeks without healer DPS. You're wrong but so, so convinced you're right.

[Kitano123]

That falls under clause #2. It's still carrying if they can't do it without your assistance.

Your posts in this thread are so dumb im convinced you're trolling.

Missing 1/3 hits in ex-roulette is idiotic, there is simply no excuse for why healers have to suffer from constant misses.

[Slappah]

That falls under clause #2. It's still carrying if they can't do it without your assistance.

It's not carrying, the content was designed around dps checks that required everyone to output as much damage as possible

The healers weren't carrying, they were just doing dps because that's what the content required.

[Felis]

The healers weren't carrying, they were just doing dps because that's what the content required.

Only because everyone was undergeared at the beginning (no full ilevel 200)

[Fynlar]

Acc increase with Cleric Stance? Very yes.

100% acc guaranteed with Cleric Stance? Lol no.

And as someone pointed out, yes, it's very silly for them to give us more DPS tools in our post-50 toolkits and not give us the accuracy required to actually make them useful in post-50 content.