Self-Destructing Community?

[Lexia]

Yeah, the most ironic part is that those with the "mentor" mark were/ are very rude based on my experience in Midas Normal. It goes to show that people simply wanted that crown next to their name

I thought that was going to happen, this what I said couple weeks ago.

I can see the mentor program just becoming a ego stroke for those that can activate it.

[hagare]

Guides are up within hours of new content going live, if not by the next day. So, if you aren't there on release day, take the time to look it up. That's where the explosion comes from, cause honestly.. alot of us are tired of doing the research ourselves and then expected to hand hold lazy people who don't want to "spoil the fight."

It hasn't even been a week and you're already taking this stance? seriously?
If you're talking about savage or extreme content, I'd understand.
But for new content?

[WinterLuna]

Guides are up within hours of new content going live, if not by the next day. So, if you aren't there on release day, take the time to look it up. That's where the explosion comes from, cause honestly.. alot of us are tired of doing the research ourselves and then expected to hand hold lazy people who don't want to "spoil the fight."

Some people actually want to have fun and try things for themselves before getting YouTube to do it for them. I'm sorry but expecting people to watch a tutorial not even a week after the patch is released is very rude and insensitive on your part.

[Lexia]

Guides are up within hours of new content going live, if not by the next day. So, if you aren't there on release day, take the time to look it up. That's where the explosion comes from, cause honestly.. alot of us are tired of doing the research ourselves and then expected to hand hold lazy people who don't want to "spoil the fight."

Yea cause it so bad that people want to be able to experience the content first before knowing every detail of it.



Cause you know there are people out there that have lives and can't be there doing the new content at 5am patch day.

[Malakai]

Guides are up within hours of new content going live, if not by the next day. So, if you aren't there on release day, take the time to look it up. That's where the explosion comes from, cause honestly.. alot of us are tired of doing the research ourselves and then expected to hand hold lazy people who don't want to "spoil the fight."

This is by far one of the worst statement/reasoning that can be made in terms of doing content. It's like saying "I can't think for myself, I need someone to handhold me thru a tutorial. Then after I accomplish it I have the rights to rage at other players for not getting handheld thru tutorials like I did.". The mechanics to most things aren't hard to figure out, you may get people who wipe a few times before it clicks and they go "Oh that's how it works.". Which is fine. It's called a learning process. Using ones mental facilities to understand how the fight works makes it easier when they do it again and again and help others to understand that need to know it.
Crying to players to watch a tutorial first instead of trying it before hand blind to learn and understand it is like telling a child to watch a youtube vid on how to ride a bike then throw them on a mountain path and expect them to ride it flawlessly. Not only that but those who are relying heavily on tutorials and youtube vids creates a bigger handicap than having the time and patience for people to go in blind and actually learn mechanics on their own. You don't need to sit before a fight and explain every little step in detail, give people the benefit of a doubt they know how to do a majority of the basic mechanics, or after experiencing it one or two times they will pick up on it. If you wipe due to a certain mechanic and you know/figure out how it works then explain it. It's called communication and it is something that is vital in a MMO, which this one sorely lacks lately.

[Dorander]

I honestly don't care if you think it's "rude" or "insensitive" when the information is available. You are willfully choosing ignorance, so expect the reaction. So yes.. REALLY! Stop being lazy and take the 10 minutes to at least know what you are getting in to.

[drmambo1999]

Honestly, I still stand by my opinion of, if you enter a duty finder, expect peeps to not know the fight....... I would much rather people learn the fight in DF or a PF made specifically for learning. I only get annoyed at players who don't know a fight who join a farm party or a clear party that states "must know most of the fight."

Also on the note of "look it up." This too, is what I feel DF is for. Not every player wants to learn from a guide and not every player is going to be present at the launch of new patches. I personally like to try a few DF runs before looking at a guide as well. I will note though, that I state I am new ahead of time in case the group wants to vote kick me. XD (I will sympathize with those up late who want to run the Alex floors that it can get annoying being put in a group with new players though)

Ultimately, though, the patch just came out and isn't even a week old and I too, have seen some salt. That being said, I have been in a few midas parties who were willing to stick it out almost to the last 10 minutes.

I will say, though, I still feel that over all the ff14 community is much more tolerant than many other mmos, with this subject.

[WinterLuna]

I honestly don't care if you think it's "rude" or "insensitive" when the information is available. You are willfully choosing ignorance, so expect the reaction. So yes.. REALLY! Stop being lazy and take the 10 minutes to at least know what you are getting in to.

I'm willfully choosing to learn something myself and not be babied through it. Funny how you call me lazy for not watching a tutorial and taking the time and effort to learn it myself. I'm afraid you are the lazy one here, who isn't patient enough to let others enjoy the game because you can't be bothered to learn the mechanics yourself in a few day old patch.

[Kerwin]

Video guides and asking for help are key to cut down on aggressive toxic responses from other players.

[AzakaTonnerre]

I honestly don't care if you think it's "rude" or "insensitive" when the information is available. You are willfully choosing ignorance, so expect the reaction. So yes.. REALLY! Stop being lazy and take the 10 minutes to at least know what you are getting in to.

This is not a homework assignment to some people. This is a game. It is their relaxation or enjoyment. For many the joy of said game is to figure things out on their own.

No one said you had to queue the DF and run the risk of having to deal with said "lazy" people. The way I see it, you could stop being lazy and find then queue it with 3 or 7 of your friends and not have to worry about it. That is what I do the times I don't feel like helping or dealing with the possibility of encountering people who don't know the fight.

I see nothing in the DF or roulette that tells people they need to review said fight beforehand. If you choose to queue a roulette, stop being a whiny bitch for putting yourself in that situation as suck it the &*($ up.

It is a simple concept really.