Self-Destructing Community?

[Ayuhra]

From what I can see there aren't even that many guides on 3.2 yet. Most videos I've seen on Sephirot for example are people recording their EX clears with no explanation about what's going on and that's not abundantly helpful.

I, as a mediocre to poor player where this game is concerned, try to watch or read guides to reduce my own margin of error but there is no learning experience like just trying an encounter. People will mess up their first time, usually, but once they get messing up out of their system they can get the mechanics down well.

Try to brush off the people who rage.

There are undoubtedly lazy players who do put minimal effort into learning anything but there are players new to content too and I think veterans forget at times what the biggest and most important step is in any learning process: Fail faster.

[Kat_Manx]

I have nearly stopped doing all group activities in this game because the people are rude.

I'm always apparently lazy or stupid. Same for my friends. I have a friend who is 61 years old and she frequently cries, like with this newest update, when someone told her she is an idiot and that she should kill herself because she didn't know all the mechanics of one of the new dungeons within 12 hours of release. Also, she is old, physically slower, English isn't her native language etc.

But nah bro, we're all just dumb AF.

I honestly don't even care how bad of a player I might be anymore, I'll always be better than most people anyway. If you spend 95% of the dungeon typing away how bad I am, I'm bound to do better than you. At least I can like, press my macros, and dodge AoE's.

BTW, ya'll ain't qualified to be mentors. Take that crown off. "Kill yourself IRL" is a really bad gaming strategy. You'd be down a DPS.

PS. If you are a nice person, this rant doesn't apply.

[Hayward]

I have nearly stopped doing all group activities in this game because the people are rude.

I'm always apparently lazy or stupid. Same for my friends. I have a friend who is 61 years old and she frequently cries, like with this newest update, when someone told her she is an idiot and that she should kill herself because she didn't know all the mechanics of one of the new dungeons within 12 hours of release. Also, she is old, physically slower, English isn't her native language etc.

But nah bro, we're all just dumb AF.

I honestly don't even care how bad of a player I might be anymore, I'll always be better than most people anyway. If you spend 95% of the dungeon typing away how bad I am, I'm bound to do better than you. At least I can like, press my macros, and dodge AoE's.

BTW, ya'll ain't qualified to be mentors. Take that crown off. "Kill yourself IRL" is a really bad gaming strategy. You'd be down a DPS.

PS. If you are a nice person, this rant doesn't apply.

This post needs to be stickied for all these online tough guys to see.

[MyaValentine]

I honestly don't care if you think it's "rude" or "insensitive" when the information is available. You are willfully choosing ignorance, so expect the reaction. So yes.. REALLY! Stop being lazy and take the 10 minutes to at least know what you are getting in to.

Watching videos don't always work for everyone. I cannot keep focus while watching videos and have a hard time understanding compared to just doing it. As well tutorials such as Mr happy's. He talks to much do by time I'm on P3 or 4 I forgot p1 and 2.

[Jynx]

Watching videos don't always work for everyone. I cannot keep focus while watching videos and have a hard time understanding compared to just doing it. As well tutorials such as Mr happy's. He talks to much do by time I'm on P3 or 4 I forgot p1 and 2.

Regardless of being able to focus or not you can at least get a cursory look at mechanics. Hell I dislike watching videos as much as the next guy as a method of learning but it's better than going in totally blind.

[drmambo1999]

Watching videos don't always work for everyone. I cannot keep focus while watching videos and have a hard time understanding compared to just doing it. As well tutorials such as Mr happy's. He talks to much do by time I'm on P3 or 4 I forgot p1 and 2.

I personally think, as long as people are respectful of others/party requirements and they communicate, watching a video shouldn't be a MUST. This is a game after all and people are here to have fun.

On the note of this though, I have a recommendation for you when watching Mrhappy's videos. Just focus on the aspects of the video that are directed at your role. While it can be useful to know the other roles in the fight, your role is the one that matters when learning. Watching the videos with this mind set will make them much less cumbersome. (Well at least for me it did. XD)

I will agree, he does cover a lot of ground and I end up having to watch his videos more than once usually to get the full picture.

[Reinha]

Watching videos don't always work for everyone. I cannot keep focus while watching videos and have a hard time understanding compared to just doing it. As well tutorials such as Mr happy's. He talks to much do by time I'm on P3 or 4 I forgot p1 and 2.

I'd like to recommend Essorance's TLDR videos and MTQcapture's videos (comes with written boss ability names I think). They are only 2-4 minutes long and describe everything that goes on in the fight very briefly without random chatter, giving a good overview of the fight for every role. Because the videos are so short you can watch them twice during the queue time. First time to get used to spell animations, main mechanics and markers, and second to focus on what your role has to pay attention to during the whole fight.

I get where you're coming from though. I counted at least 17 different mechanics in A8 and that's on the brink of how many things I can remember after being told once. That developers are focusing more on mechanics and less on dps checks is very enjoyable imo but a lot of people still have the expectation that it's easy to memorize an entire fight just by seeing/reading it once. Maybe some people get it perfect the first time but for me remembering 17 mechanics and responses to them, positioning, boss spell names and when to use cooldowns is not a trivial task and requires trying it out in game. If the number of mechanics was cut in half (like A2 for example) it would be a different story.

[RhaegarFFXIFenrir]

When people want advice they ask for it. If your advice is solicited then give it. If they don't ask for it then either they watched a vid and have a good idea of what to expect or would like to try to figure it out on their own. Respect their wishes. If after a few attempts they still appear to be struggling, ASK if they would like an explanation before just force feeding it down their throats. That was a real annoyance during this recent patch...it had been out all of 8 hours before I had the chance to do Sephirot and people were already posting books about the mechanics on entry. There was nothing in there I couldn't figure out after seeing once. Respect people's right to enjoy the game. If your enjoyment of the game comes from everything running flawlessly then put your own group together and run without random people. The moment you enter Duty Finder you've accepted that you might (probably) will be playing with people who don't have the experience or player skill you do.

[RhaegarFFXIFenrir]

Also, videos are absolutely not a requirement for any content, new or old. If the content is new then let the people who want to discover the content blind do so. If it's old, then the other 3 people know the mechanics well enough that they should be able to cover for any mistakes by the new person. I don't watch videos before running a new dungeon. I will check the vids out after I've run the new content a few times to see if there was anything I missed or was unable to figure out on my own. This whole "rage" thing needs to stop though. If you wouldn't say something to someone's face you shouldn't say it online either.

[Aomine1992]

It's like with each new patch comes more rudeness, Alexander Midas was a hot mess the first day in A7 ppl where yelling, kicking and screaming the whole time now don't get me wrong most of Midas is easy but there are a lot of mechanics in A7 for ppl to learn...videos arnt always available when content is like same day new lol