Crafters have no right to get their own Chocobos

[NoctisUmbra]

Someone made the reference that the DoH are getting Materia Crafting to offset the Grand Company Chocobos, so I propose the following suggestion to all main crafters.

Require anyone who wants you to attach materia for them to have a DoH or DoL class leveled to at least 25.

That's fair, right?

Not quite. I'm not sure on this, but I think there's a minimum rank already. That being said, materia crafting continues to reward you as you grow in crafting rank. GC issue chocobos you have full access to by simply getting to 25 on a battle class and getting 3k seals.

It already is quite simple and fair. All I see, beyond all the pointless, and sometimes desperate arguments are people arguing that crafters should get content awarded to battle classes without putting in the necessary effort. That, and a bunch of people posting who already have sufficient battle rank to get chocobos but feel the need to create controversy.

[syntaxlies]

Someone made the reference that the DoH are getting Materia Crafting to offset the Grand Company Chocobos, so I propose the following suggestion to all main crafters.

Require anyone who wants you to attach materia for them to have a DoH or DoL class leveled to at least 25.

That's fair, right?

im not sure if this was supposed to make sense if if your just trying to make my brain hurt, if its the brain hurting, then you succeeded.

[Duuude007]

Someone made the reference that the DoH are getting Materia Crafting to offset the Grand Company Chocobos, so I propose the following suggestion to all main crafters.

Require anyone who wants you to attach materia for them to have a DoH or DoL class leveled to at least 25.

That's fair, right?

They already decided that the fair equivalent of a lvl25 DoW is a lvl18 DoH. That is the requirement to access the materia tools.

It sounds perfectly fair to me, as the necessary timesink is about the same.

[KaiKatzchen]

I play all four classes, DoH, DoL, DoW and DoM... I can see it from both sides and can understand everyone's points of view... but...

If I am correct when you go to a city to start the Grand Company story line it sends you up to a hamlet, and after that there is a small battle.

If you don't have a DoM or DoW how can you get past this?

Then after all of that is done another part of the Grand company story line is making your way to the dungeon with 3 other DoM/DoW members and doing the 25 dungeon run to complete the other part of the story...

Once again...If you don't have a Dom or DoW how can you get past this?

Only then can you become a recruit for the Grand Company.

So if people can't even become a recruit for the Grand Company without having a DoM, DoW class to complete the first two missions of the recruitment phase... how you going to get your own personal Chocobo anyway?

Unless people asking Yoshi-P to change the whole story line that has been in place since last patch, you can't become a recruit to get the personal Chocobo without a R25 DoW or DoM in the first place.

I figured it was pretty obvious when they stated you would get the Personal Chocobos through Grand Company's, people would have realized then... "Well if I don't have a R25 in a fighting or magic class I can't become a recruit anyway".

It might not be totally fair, but then again life isn't fair. I mean I love Lancer and Archer, is it fair that I can't use a Bow and Lance on every job? What if I want to be a CON that uses a bow and arrow!!! :P

But my point is... this has been in place for a while now and obvious that this would happen. People are just complaining about it now? Why didn't you start complaining about it and realize it when you couldn't become a recruit for Grand Company without having a battle class, Chocobo or not... people still couldn't join.

People only care now because they can't get a Chocobo without being in GC? You didn't think it was unfair you couldn't join GC beforehand just to BE in it and get stuff that was coming out for it without a R25 Dow or DoM?

If you're going fight for something fight for the overall...everyone should have been complaining about this when GC was released and required a R25 fighting/mage class. So it was fair back then when it came to getting in, and all the sudden it’s not fair now just because of chocobos?

I can sympathize… but overall this argument seems rather silly coming this far after implementation of GC.

[syntaxlies]

I play all four classes, DoH, DoL, DoW and DoM... I can see it from both sides and can understand everyone's points of view... but...

If I am correct when you go to a city to start the Grand Company story line it sends you up to a hamlet, and after that there is a small battle.

If you don't have a DoM or DoW how can you get past this?

Then after all of that is done another part of the Grand company story line is making your way to the dungeon with 3 other DoM/DoW members and doing the 25 dungeon run to complete the other part of the story...

Once again...If you don't have a Dom or DoW how can you get past this?

Only then can you become a recruit for the Grand Company.

So if people can't even become a recruit for the Grand Company without having a DoM, DoW class to complete the first two missions of the recruitment phase... how you going to get your own personal Chocobo anyway?

Unless people asking Yoshi-P to change the whole story line that has been in place since last patch, you can't become a recruit to get the personal Chocobo without a R25 DoW or DoM in the first place.

I figured it was pretty obvious when they stated you would get the Personal Chocobos through Grand Company's, people would have realized then... "Well if I don't have a R25 in a fighting or magic class I can't become a recruit anyway".

It might not be totally fair, but then again life isn't fair. I mean I love Lancer and Archer, is it fair that I can't use a Bow and Lance on every job? What if I want to be a CON that uses a bow and arrow!!! :P

But my point is... this has been in place for a while now and obvious that this would happen. People are just complaining about it now? Why didn't you start complaining about it and realize it when you couldn't become a recruit for Grand Company without having a battle class, Chocobo or not... people still couldn't join.

People only care now because they can't get a Chocobo without being in GC? You didn't think it was unfair you couldn't join GC beforehand just to BE in it and get stuff that was coming out for it without a R25 Dow or DoM?

If you're going fight for something fight for the overall...everyone should have been complaining about this when GC was released and required a R25 fighting/mage class. So it was fair back then when it came to getting in, and all the sudden it’s not fair now just because of chocobos?

I can sympathize… but overall this argument seems rather silly coming this far after implementation of GC.

especially considering the requirements are rather low and wouldn't take more then a couple days to achieve.

[Kiote]

I play all four classes, DoH, DoL, DoW and DoM... I can see it from both sides and can understand everyone's points of view... but...

If I am correct when you go to a city to start the Grand Company story line it sends you up to a hamlet, and after that there is a small battle.

If you don't have a DoM or DoW how can you get past this?

Then after all of that is done another part of the Grand company story line is making your way to the dungeon with 3 other DoM/DoW members and doing the 25 dungeon run to complete the other part of the story...

Once again...If you don't have a Dom or DoW how can you get past this?

Only then can you become a recruit for the Grand Company.

So if people can't even become a recruit for the Grand Company without having a DoM, DoW class to complete the first two missions of the recruitment phase... how you going to get your own personal Chocobo anyway?

Unless people asking Yoshi-P to change the whole story line that has been in place since last patch, you can't become a recruit to get the personal Chocobo without a R25 DoW or DoM in the first place.

I figured it was pretty obvious when they stated you would get the Personal Chocobos through Grand Company's, people would have realized then... "Well if I don't have a R25 in a fighting or magic class I can't become a recruit anyway".

It might not be totally fair, but then again life isn't fair. I mean I love Lancer and Archer, is it fair that I can't use a Bow and Lance on every job? What if I want to be a CON that uses a bow and arrow!!! :P

But my point is... this has been in place for a while now and obvious that this would happen. People are just complaining about it now? Why didn't you start complaining about it and realize it when you couldn't become a recruit for Grand Company without having a battle class, Chocobo or not... people still couldn't join.

People only care now because they can't get a Chocobo without being in GC? You didn't think it was unfair you couldn't join GC beforehand just to BE in it and get stuff that was coming out for it without a R25 Dow or DoM?

If you're going fight for something fight for the overall...everyone should have been complaining about this when GC was released and required a R25 fighting/mage class. So it was fair back then when it came to getting in, and all the sudden it’s not fair now just because of chocobos?

I can sympathize… but overall this argument seems rather silly coming this far after implementation of GC.

All of the fights to get into the GC allow for parties. DoL/H could easily just get a party. The dungeons are not required for entry.

[Kiote]

Not quite. I'm not sure on this, but I think there's a minimum rank already. That being said, materia crafting continues to reward you as you grow in crafting rank. GC issue chocobos you have full access to by simply getting to 25 on a battle class and getting 3k seals.

It already is quite simple and fair. All I see, beyond all the pointless, and sometimes desperate arguments are people arguing that crafters should get content awarded to battle classes without putting in the necessary effort. That, and a bunch of people posting who already have sufficient battle rank to get chocobos but feel the need to create controversy.

Crafters and gatherers don't want Battle Class rewards for putting in no effort. What we want is a way for us to Earn those rewards with our own content. Real Content. Not that ridiculous parley crap they used in the Main Storyline. They already intend to make DoL/H Company quests, it would not be unreasonable to make DoL/H entrance exams.

[syntaxlies]

Crafters and gatherers don't want Battle Class rewards for putting in no effort. What we want is a way for us to Earn those rewards with our own content. Real Content. Not that ridiculous parley crap they used in the Main Storyline. They already intend to make DoL/H Company quests, it would not be unreasonable to make DoL/H entrance exams.

or they can jsut play the game the way its designed.

there are always rentals for the 00.1% that dont have a bat class rank 50, no sense in catering content to such a small percentage.

[Kiote]

or they can jsut play the game the way its designed.

there are always rentals for the 00.1% that dont have a bat class rank 50, no sense in catering content to such a small percentage.

It's not catering content, it's expanding variety. Having more quest and more ways to doing things Can only make this game better. It is the severe lack of Content that makes Classes feel like a grind. Especially DoH/L which have literally nothing else to do but grind. Adding more activities will only make the game more enjoyable for everyone. Restricting content serves no purpose.

Adding Only Content that is exclusive to Battle classes will not fill in the major gaps that bore people in this game.

[Cycloptichorn]

Crafters and gatherers don't want Battle Class rewards for putting in no effort. What we want is a way for us to Earn those rewards with our own content. Real Content. Not that ridiculous parley crap they used in the Main Storyline. They already intend to make DoL/H Company quests, it would not be unreasonable to make DoL/H entrance exams.

Dude; you're a r50 lancer. Quit talking in the first person as if you represent anyone who would be affected by this.

I think the vast majority of the playerbase would be pissed, if the chocobos were held up in order to create a bunch of new content so that people who ONLY do DoL/H (which must be a few percentage points of the playerbase at most) don't have hurt fee-fees over not being considered as awesome as the rest of us.