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    Someone made the reference that the DoH are getting Materia Crafting to offset the Grand Company Chocobos, so I propose the following suggestion to all main crafters.

    Require anyone who wants you to attach materia for them to have a DoH or DoL class leveled to at least 25.

    That's fair, right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darium View Post
    Someone made the reference that the DoH are getting Materia Crafting to offset the Grand Company Chocobos, so I propose the following suggestion to all main crafters.

    Require anyone who wants you to attach materia for them to have a DoH or DoL class leveled to at least 25.

    That's fair, right?
    Not quite. I'm not sure on this, but I think there's a minimum rank already. That being said, materia crafting continues to reward you as you grow in crafting rank. GC issue chocobos you have full access to by simply getting to 25 on a battle class and getting 3k seals.

    It already is quite simple and fair. All I see, beyond all the pointless, and sometimes desperate arguments are people arguing that crafters should get content awarded to battle classes without putting in the necessary effort. That, and a bunch of people posting who already have sufficient battle rank to get chocobos but feel the need to create controversy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NoctisUmbra View Post
    Not quite. I'm not sure on this, but I think there's a minimum rank already. That being said, materia crafting continues to reward you as you grow in crafting rank. GC issue chocobos you have full access to by simply getting to 25 on a battle class and getting 3k seals.

    It already is quite simple and fair. All I see, beyond all the pointless, and sometimes desperate arguments are people arguing that crafters should get content awarded to battle classes without putting in the necessary effort. That, and a bunch of people posting who already have sufficient battle rank to get chocobos but feel the need to create controversy.
    Crafters and gatherers don't want Battle Class rewards for putting in no effort. What we want is a way for us to Earn those rewards with our own content. Real Content. Not that ridiculous parley crap they used in the Main Storyline. They already intend to make DoL/H Company quests, it would not be unreasonable to make DoL/H entrance exams.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiote View Post
    Crafters and gatherers don't want Battle Class rewards for putting in no effort. What we want is a way for us to Earn those rewards with our own content. Real Content. Not that ridiculous parley crap they used in the Main Storyline. They already intend to make DoL/H Company quests, it would not be unreasonable to make DoL/H entrance exams.
    or they can jsut play the game the way its designed.

    there are always rentals for the 00.1% that dont have a bat class rank 50, no sense in catering content to such a small percentage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by syntaxlies View Post
    or they can jsut play the game the way its designed.

    there are always rentals for the 00.1% that dont have a bat class rank 50, no sense in catering content to such a small percentage.
    It's not catering content, it's expanding variety. Having more quest and more ways to doing things Can only make this game better. It is the severe lack of Content that makes Classes feel like a grind. Especially DoH/L which have literally nothing else to do but grind. Adding more activities will only make the game more enjoyable for everyone. Restricting content serves no purpose.

    Adding Only Content that is exclusive to Battle classes will not fill in the major gaps that bore people in this game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiote View Post
    It's not catering content, it's expanding variety. Having more quest and more ways to doing things Can only make this game better. It is the severe lack of Content that makes Classes feel like a grind. Especially DoH/L which have literally nothing else to do but grind. Adding more activities will only make the game more enjoyable for everyone. Restricting content serves no purpose.
    Expanding content?

    SE makes Grand Companies - a hub of plenty of new content for players who chose to play battle classes. Battle classes are the primary focus of this game and DoH/L are secondary. That has been established.

    If players want to experience everything the game has to offer, they need to participate in everything the game has to offer. Grand Company issued chocobos are incentive for players to participate in Grand Companies - content they put quite a lot of effort into. Participating in Grand Companies requires battle classes - a system they continue to put great effort into.

    I will say again, SE giving incentive for players to participate in other content is never a bad thing.

    That being said, given the direction of the game, if one finds that they do not enjoy battle content at all, not even enough to rank a single battle class to 25, they will find that this game will be getting more and more boring for them.

    That's basically it for me. It's getting dull repeating the same thing again and again as this discussion only grows stale.

    If there is any player that has no battle class at or above rank 25 that feels the need to discuss this, I would be happy to participate. Players with ranked battle classes discussing this just 'out of principal' are getting nowhere.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NoctisUmbra View Post

    If there is any player that has no battle class at or above rank 25 that feels the need to discuss this, I would be happy to participate. Players with ranked battle classes discussing this just 'out of principal' are getting nowhere.
    I don't have battle class above rank 25. I'm a fisher and alchemist, so do I have the right to fight to get my chocobo? I'm willing to level my r10 something archer, please power level me. Do you have the time for it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiote View Post
    It's not catering content, it's expanding variety. Having more quest and more ways to doing things Can only make this game better. It is the severe lack of Content that makes Classes feel like a grind. Especially DoH/L which have literally nothing else to do but grind. Adding more activities will only make the game more enjoyable for everyone. Restricting content serves no purpose.

    Adding Only Content that is exclusive to Battle classes will not fill in the major gaps that bore people in this game.
    so if the dol/doh are bored rank a dow and get a choc. by not having duplicate content it will free the developers to make real content.
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    A Hypothetical example of the current situation:

    Let's say in Patch 1.21, Doh/L get a quest at r25 that grants them a "Return Ring". It is only available to DoH/L that have pledged allegiance to a Crafting Guild, ranked up beyond Recruit and costs 3000 Guild Points.

    I would not cry foul, unfair, discrimination. I would rank at least 1 craft to 25 (22 is highest now) so that I can get the "Return Ring" since any class can use it.

    Do not be surprised to see much more "content" like this in the future. There will be perks for every class that will make you jealous and want to level that class to get it, whether it be an item or Class Ability.

    Also, don't forget that DoW/M already have to level multiple Classes (that perhaps they hate) just to get the desired Cross-Class Abilities. It is the way the whole Armoury System was set up in the first place.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Davorok View Post
    A Hypothetical example of the current situation:

    Let's say in Patch 1.21, Doh/L get a quest at r25 that grants them a "Return Ring". It is only available to DoH/L that have pledged allegiance to a Crafting Guild, ranked up beyond Recruit and costs 3000 Guild Points.

    I would not cry foul, unfair, discrimination. I would rank at least 1 craft to 25 (22 is highest now) so that I can get the "Return Ring" since any class can use it.

    Do not be surprised to see much more "content" like this in the future. There will be perks for every class that will make you jealous and want to level that class to get it, whether it be an item or Class Ability.

    Also, don't forget that DoW/M already have to level multiple Classes (that perhaps they hate) just to get the desired Cross-Class Abilities. It is the way the whole Armoury System was set up in the first place.
    How about at 1.19 patch, Doh/L get a quest at r25 that grants them to breed the chocobo, It is only available to DoH/L that have pledged allegiance to a Chocobo Breeding Guild. Will pure battle class cry for it? Think before you answer it.
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