Quote Originally Posted by Phoenicia View Post
We are still at a point where out only consideration is the following:

MT: DRK or PLD.

OT: WAR with a crown.

Basically, it will never be balanced unless people considering the following:

MT: WAR, PLD or DRK.

OT: WAR, PLD or DRK.
Exactly. Like I said before, the changes are nice, but, in the end, they haven't really "fixed" anything. Everyone still has a pre-established role:
  • War + Drk = War OT + Drk MT.
  • War + Pld = War OT + Pld MT
  • Drk + Pld = Pld OT + Drk MT

Everyone is pigeon holed into a specific roll. Drk's, in particular, get the short end of the stick, because no matter who they are slotted with they are always considered MT. In that regard, they REALLY could have used something to make them a viable OT. That said, Drk and War is still the ideal combination, and there's no real reason to replace Drk with Pld.

Quote Originally Posted by Ultimatecalibur View Post
They (Paladins) also have 4 or 5 (Flash, Stoneskin, Clemency, Shield/Sword Oath and possibly Cure) "free" GCD actions and no non-combo single GCD TP users that can be interwoven into the 9 GCD GB -> RA -> RA/RoH combo rotation. This could be something to consider at skill speeds that drop Paladin GCDs below 2.4 sec (i.e. 10 GCDs per Goring Blade dot).
Like I said before, Pld's will be in the same boat they are now. The fact is that, to maintain their Tp, Pld's are encouraged to sabotage their already abysmally low dps by casting moves which do 0 dmg and are situational at best. Clemency, Stone skin, and Oath swapping, all have a specific utility. A Pld should be using them for those utilities, not because they are suddenly desperate for TP. No other tank in the game has to waste a turn of their GCD just to maintain their TP bar (though, Drk's can get close if the fight drags on long enough). Given that Pld's already have the lowest overall Dps (and only 3 dmg dealing oGCD's), it is mind blowing that SE has failed, yet again, to address this problem.