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  1. #31
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    Veritas-Ancora's Avatar
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    Mother Vain
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    Quote Originally Posted by Torunya View Post
    You don't even get any reward for being a Mentor. It's meant for seasoned players that want to help new players, and have the experience to show for it.
    Well, you get SOME reward, just not tomes. Similar to how Gold Saucer works with an independent money system (MGP), you can earn mounts and glamours through this process. I do hope the rewards are worthwhile, though. On one hand, you do need to remove the toxic players from the mentor system who are greedy for end game advancement. Mounts and minions and glamours are just fun incentives to make all the crazy amounts of stress worthwhile.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Callback View Post
    Meaning I'm never going to be in this system, despite being a lot more qualified than a good chunk of people who do meet the requirements.
    what on earth makes you think you're so much more "qualified" than people who have done 1000 dungeon runs? or have levelled up all 3 types of classes?
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  3. #33
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    All these pre-reqs seem a little unnecessary when there's already the achievements points system in place.

    You unlock Mentor status when you reach 6,000 points - simple!
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  4. #34
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    Lindis Hrafnvandrar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Veritas-Ancora View Post
    Well, you get SOME reward, just not tomes. Similar to how Gold Saucer works with an independent money system (MGP), you can earn mounts and glamours through this process. I do hope the rewards are worthwhile, though. On one hand, you do need to remove the toxic players from the mentor system who are greedy for end game advancement. Mounts and minions and glamours are just fun incentives to make all the crazy amounts of stress worthwhile.
    After double checking it appears we do indeed get some rewards.

    "Though there won’t be a ton of rewards, you’ll have priority matching for the content that has not been cleared yet by the person you are queuing with. Completing this a certain amount of times will yield achievements and rewards. Additionally, you’ll have a crown mark added next to your name, and you can turn this off and on as you like." - Bayohne, community rep. [Link]

    I too am concerned about potential toxicity though, there will inevitably be horror stories after the system is released. I'm hoping the mentor community becomes a tightly packed one. The main focus is to help newbies after all, so hopefully there won't be many opportunities for exploitation.

    Offtopic; and your signature is so awesome. ;o;
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    Last edited by Torunya; 02-04-2016 at 11:13 PM. Reason: char limit
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    Where's my daily baked deliciousness, Toruyna?

  5. #35
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    Tsilyi L'sombra
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    Quote Originally Posted by Callback View Post
    I just checked Lodestone. I'm somewhere between 100 and 300 instances cleared, and 86 comm.

    Meaning I'm never going to be in this system, despite being a lot more qualified than a good chunk of people who do meet the requirements.
    What makes you think you would be more qualified, having leveled only one combat class all the way and none of the others much more than half? I don't mean this to be rude, but what do you know about all the other roles/jobs, and if you avoid roulettes like the plague, how many times have you done earlier dungeons to help people if they are struggling... or the newer ones for that matter?

    One thing you probably could do might be the crafting/gathering mentor system, since that has different requirements and you do have a lot of those classes pretty high up. You don't seem to like this game very much though, afking in leves, not doing dungeons. Personally I do enjoy crafting and gathering but I don't know if I could ever like it more than combat.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mjollnir View Post
    All these pre-reqs seem a little unnecessary when there's already the achievements points system in place.

    You unlock Mentor status when you reach 6,000 points - simple!
    oh no, i only have 3400 or so D: haha I would have some grinding to do. Helping people, especially my FC mates is something I love to do, and so I'm looking forward to the mentor system for sure.
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  6. #36
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    Quote Originally Posted by XiXiQ View Post
    what on earth makes you think you're so much more "qualified" than people who have done 1000 dungeon runs? or have leveled up all 3 types of classes?
    Duty finder.
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  7. #37
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    Adore Mi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Callback View Post
    Duty finder.
    You should stop. You're only embarrassing yourself.
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  8. #38
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tsilyi View Post
    What makes you think you would be more qualified, having leveled only one combat class all the way and none of the others much more than half? I don't mean this to be rude, but what do you know about all the other roles/jobs, and if you avoid roulettes like the plague, how many times have you done earlier dungeons to help people if they are struggling... or the newer ones for that matter?
    I couldn't help them with something like rotations, but I've certainly walked many DF players in all roles through several bosses. I have 86 commends out of 250 runs purely on dps. More than half of those are from runs where someone asked for help, or we wiped and I walked the person through how to deal with things. Of course I had mostly normal silent DF runs (no commend for DPS in those), even if many of them (grouped with people who DO meet the 1k/300 req) were super slow and needed me to carry, no wipe no complaint.

    One thing you probably could do might be the crafting/gathering mentor system, since that has different requirements and you do have a lot of those classes pretty high up. You don't seem to like this game very much though, afking in leves, not doing dungeons. Personally I do enjoy crafting and gathering but I don't know if I could ever like it more than combat.
    No I'm not qualified for that. I'm barely 60 in anything and haven't even scratched the surface of the endgame. I'm sitting in HQ i150 barely started on blue scrips for m3/folklore, never mind trying to cap reds.

    And yeah, gathering can be kinda dull and repetitive, but so is combat in this game. At least crafting/gathering is honest about it, and yields more tangible rewards for your effort.
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    Last edited by Callback; 02-05-2016 at 12:25 AM.

  9. #39
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    Dante Venarra
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    Jenova
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    Quote Originally Posted by Callback View Post
    Things and things
    The mentor system seesm to be more about the ins and outs of the actual jobs/roles themselves than about tactics on a specific boss or dungeon. So in this context, knowing the break points for single target vs aoe dps on your job/role while being able to efficiently maximize output would be more valuable than knowing to bait the fire to the side of the ring on the second boss of Keeper or to turn away from petrifaction so you don't turn to stone. Dungeons strats are pretty self evident in most cases and easily explained. The goal of the mentor system is to have experienced players help newer players learn the ins and outs of their job/roles. Knowing a boss strat and knowing which drg OGCDS can be double weaved without clipping are two very separate things.
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    Kaurie Lorhart
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    Quote Originally Posted by Veritas-Ancora View Post
    300 commendations is just way too low to gauge a player. A tank will typically receive all 3 commendations in every dungeon run regardless of their performance.
    I am pretty sure the commendation system is mostly to gauge that you've played the game for awhile - rather than testing on player skill or adeptness. That said, I am not sure I understand your argument. As I read it, "commendations are worthless and mean nothing, please make the requirement higher for commendations." That makes little sense to me.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kuwagami View Post
    Sometimes you'll get a lot of commends just by being helpful too.
    Sometimes >.< Yesterday on my SCH, I got 2 commendations per dungeon doing relic dungeons, save for one. The one where I got 0 commendations, I explained every fight for the tank as it was their first time.
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