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    bardaboo's Avatar
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    Kochie Monster
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    Bard Lv 60
    Well. It seems like a decent way to teach people dungeon basics. What I'm concerned about is that teaching someone how to play in a group setting still might leave them behind if they aren't doing their job rotation properly. Is that going to be part of the class?
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    Duuude Bismarck
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    Hyperion
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    Armorer Lv 80
    Tanks have to be knowledgeable of instanced content IN ORDER TO do it well. DPS can just follow and shoot stuff.

    If a tank is doing well enough to earn 3 commends, they are already on the way to being a half decent leader, aka a mentor...
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    Millen1's Avatar
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    Xiao Ming
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    Brynhildr
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    Dark Knight Lv 80
    The think that gets me is having a Tank/healer/dps class each at level 60. I main heals, sch and whm and I play blm for dps. I have no interest in tanking and do not have a level 60 tank. How many ppl would get locked out of Mentoring others if they have no interest in one of the three required classes if I read the 3.2 letter right? The number of dungeon runs and comms isn't that high if you did 2.0 relic to zeta.
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    Aeon Rakshasa
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    Lich
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    Bard Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Millen1 View Post
    The think that gets me is having a Tank/healer/dps class each at level 60. I main heals, sch and whm and I play blm for dps. I have no interest in tanking and do not have a level 60 tank. How many ppl would get locked out of Mentoring others if they have no interest in one of the three required classes if I read the 3.2 letter right? The number of dungeon runs and comms isn't that high if you did 2.0 relic to zeta.
    I also hate tanking...but I still took my PLD all the way because I wanted to understand it better. It certainly helps me with my healing and DPS when I know what the tank is doing (or supposed to be doing, or what they could be doing).

    I think that was more the point of "have each of the roles fully leveled". I mean certainly if someone comes to me and goes "I wanna main a tank have any tips" I'll probably give general info then say "But over here this person is a main tank and they can help you with specifics".
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    Miranda Madison
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    Twintania
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    White Mage Lv 80
    I may or may not try to put an end to the Ice mage era.
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    Torunya's Avatar
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    Lindis Hrafnvandrar
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    Ragnarok
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    Scholar Lv 80
    You don't even get any reward for being a Mentor. It's meant for seasoned players that want to help new players, and have the experience to show for it. Think about it like this; No one would hire a teacher without a proper educational background. I know I wouldn't. Although I feel it slightly silly that they made having 1 of each role at 60 a requirement, it still means that you have advice to offer on each of the roles.

    Besides, not being a mentor doesn't mean you can't help new players.
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    Veritas-Ancora's Avatar
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    Mother Vain
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    Gilgamesh
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    Quote Originally Posted by Torunya View Post
    You don't even get any reward for being a Mentor. It's meant for seasoned players that want to help new players, and have the experience to show for it.
    Well, you get SOME reward, just not tomes. Similar to how Gold Saucer works with an independent money system (MGP), you can earn mounts and glamours through this process. I do hope the rewards are worthwhile, though. On one hand, you do need to remove the toxic players from the mentor system who are greedy for end game advancement. Mounts and minions and glamours are just fun incentives to make all the crazy amounts of stress worthwhile.
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    Lindis Hrafnvandrar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Veritas-Ancora View Post
    Well, you get SOME reward, just not tomes. Similar to how Gold Saucer works with an independent money system (MGP), you can earn mounts and glamours through this process. I do hope the rewards are worthwhile, though. On one hand, you do need to remove the toxic players from the mentor system who are greedy for end game advancement. Mounts and minions and glamours are just fun incentives to make all the crazy amounts of stress worthwhile.
    After double checking it appears we do indeed get some rewards.

    "Though there won’t be a ton of rewards, you’ll have priority matching for the content that has not been cleared yet by the person you are queuing with. Completing this a certain amount of times will yield achievements and rewards. Additionally, you’ll have a crown mark added next to your name, and you can turn this off and on as you like." - Bayohne, community rep. [Link]

    I too am concerned about potential toxicity though, there will inevitably be horror stories after the system is released. I'm hoping the mentor community becomes a tightly packed one. The main focus is to help newbies after all, so hopefully there won't be many opportunities for exploitation.

    Offtopic; and your signature is so awesome. ;o;
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    Last edited by Torunya; 02-04-2016 at 11:13 PM. Reason: char limit
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    Blitz Ace
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    Odin
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    Gladiator Lv 80
    Often get comms even as a DPS so i'm not sure what some people are saying, Sure. Tank/Healer might get em more often but don't act like DPS never get comms cause i've got plenty by playing a DPS class lol.
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    Mother Vain
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    Gilgamesh
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    Reaper Lv 100
    And I think what people have to realize is that you're getting a healer to L60 AND a tank to L60. That's a LOT of comms you're going to be getting. Even if you're a DPS who claims that you never get any comms, you will get a massive amount by playing tank. Trust me, I started healer then went DPS for a good year and a half.

    When I started tanking and got to L50, I had tripled my commendations, easily. And you might think "oh well you had forever to play that" -- nope, started tanking in patch 2.55. Hitting the bare minimum ESO cap for a few weeks will guarantee you more comms than you know what to do with.
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