Why are low standards for dps acceptable?

[Kaurie]

That's fine. Was just using it as an example is all. I figured it was similar to Darkside in execution.

I don't know anything about Darkside. However, how Enochian works is that you gain the skill at level 56 IIRC. At this time, it gives you a 5% damage boost that is oGCD useable every 60s with a 30s duration

if you use it whenever it is down you'll get a 2.5% DPS increase, Raging Strikes by contrast is a 20% damage increase usable every 3 minutes for 20s or a 2.2% DPS increase

Once you get 58, you obtain Blizzard IV, this is only usable when Enochian is up - and when you use it, it refreshes enochian. The duration refreshed is less each time you use it (i.e. if you put up Enochian and spam Blizz IV's you'll actually get less than 30 seconds out of it, so timing this is important). Blizzard IV does not refresh umbral ice or apply stacks and is only usable when Umbral Ice is up.

Once you get 60, you obtain Fire IV, this is only usable when Enochian is up and is a very powerful, slow cast damage spell. This also does not refresh astral fire, or apply it and requires it to be up for use. So timing can be pretty tricky with AoE's.

It is a tricky spell to use, but both your 58 and 60 spell are not even usable unless you apply it, and even if you decide to opt out of using Fire IV and Blizzard IV because it's too hard to keep up (this would be a mistake, but I digress), your Enochian still applies a higher sustained DPS increase than Raging Strikes. It would be silly to ignore it.

[Fyce]

We all know the dungeons (minus the expert ones) are facerolling boring and easy and don't require even remotely trying your best.

It doesn't matter if the content is easy, it's not a justification for being lazy.

Faster runs are always welcome, but when half your party doesn't give a damn about others and are here just to get carried, there's just no excuse as all respect is lost.

That's what JP players have and NA/EU don't, respect and consideration for each other.

[Ciri_Wolf]

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I wish I enjoyed BLM. That doesn't really sound too difficult to keep up. At least not any more difficult than managing Darkside.

[Kaurie]

I wish I enjoyed BLM. That doesn't really sound too difficult to keep up. At least not any more difficult than managing Darkside.

Hm, I find it hard to keep up personally. After 2 Fire IV's, you need to use Fire I to refresh astral. If you dodged, then Astral drops and then you need to re-apply Fire III which is a long cast - which cuts out a couple more Fire IV's, which is a huge DPS loss. It was enough for me to decide to never play my BLM again after pouring countless hours in to it at 50 and leveling it to 60 / getting the 200 relic for it etc.

[Ciri_Wolf]

Hm, I find it hard to keep up personally. After 2 Fire IV's, you need to use Fire I to refresh astral. If you dodged, then Astral drops and then you need to re-apply Fire III which is a long cast - which cuts out a couple more Fire IV's, which is a huge DPS loss. It was enough for me to decide to never play my BLM again after pouring countless hours in to it at 50 and leveling it to 60 / getting the 200 relic for it etc.

Oh, no, you're probably right. Darkside is easier to keep up, since it's a stance that uses mana. So all you have to do to keep it going is make sure your mana doesn't run out while also keeping aggro on targets. DRK can easily manage mana since it has Syphon Strike and Blood weapon to restore mana. I suppose You don't have to keep track of as many things as BLM there.

[Granyala]

I wish I enjoyed BLM. That doesn't really sound too difficult to keep up. At least not any more difficult than managing Darkside.

It is A LOT harder to keep going esp on movement intense encounter or bosses that "hop away" and get untargetable.
Timings are very strict and I don't think BLM is balanced around a 100% Enochian uptime.

if you lose Enochian you fall back to the 50s rotation.

[Iagainsti]

You do know bots are a real thing in this game, and there's a good chance that people who don't communicate in a dungeon from start to finish could very well be running a bot? Hell botting THM/BLM who do nothing but the standard 2.0 rotation are the most common type.

Yes, so many bots will drudge throught the msq to unlock heavensward so they can ice mage their way through Fractal #keepDreamin'

[Iagainsti]

Whether a question is loaded or not is a matter of perspective and if you would actually take offense to it to begin with (like pretty much any other thing ever)

Nope, a loaded question is a inquiry put forth with an unjustified presumption iirc, perspective is irrelevant, unless we account the perspective of the Inquirer. If we do cater to that logic, the OP can't distinguish between an uneducated player and a preprogrammed avatar, and was snide in his narrow minded view.

[Iagainsti]

It is A LOT harder to keep going esp on movement intense encounter or bosses that "hop away" and get untargetable.
Timings are very strict and I don't think BLM is balanced around a 100% Enochian uptime.

if you lose Enochian you fall back to the 50s rotation.

This is true; I leveled Blk for pvp purposes but have swapped it out for roulettes to help fc members when the tank slot is taken. Getting used to the long Fire/Blizz IV casts in movement heavy fights took awhile to get used to, and actually made me so embarrassed at my performance I had to go back to the House dummy and "git gud" xD

[lawlHT]

Yes, so many bots will drudge throught the msq to unlock heavensward so they can ice mage their way through Fractal #keepDreamin'

This does actually happen though. There are quite a few bots grinding esos in 60 dungeons hoping no one will notice