Why are low standards for dps acceptable?

[AnaviAnael]

Try reading the whole post not just the bit you wanted to have a hissy fit about.
You know, stuff like this





Or you can just carry on with your little strawman over there, if you enjoy that sort of thing.

Did I even quote you? I was responding to the argument as a whole. You aren't the only person to mention being able to clear without playing the job properly.

[The_Greatest_Evil]

Every player that calls another normal player saying they are ''bot'' should be banned. When you talk to a gamer that he is a bot is that the first worst ofense that he can get. The second is when you call a player of ''noob/newbie. So you start the ofense he was just defendig his self.So the BLM is the angel of the history for me.

[TheUltimateSeph]

Every player that calls another normal player saying they are ''bot'' should be banned. When you talk to a gamer that he is a bot is that the first worst ofense that he can get. The second is when you call a player of ''noob/newbie. So you start the ofense he was just defendig his self.So the BLM is the angel of the history for me.

I honestly think a lot of people would like for it to be a bannable offense to enter end game DF content without complete knowledge of their class or with no intention of using their end game skills. Clearly these people are griefing everyone they come across in the DF with their poor standards by slowing down the runs. They shouldn't be allowed to do this, start banning them all.

[Artemiz]

Honestly, your argument was about as relevant as hers. The question was not whether the BLM was good or could keep Enochian up, but rather that they did not use it all together. I think we can all agree that some people may find keeping enochian up a challenge and that really isn't the question in this thread.

I don't agree, I think my post was relevant. For a large proportion of this thread the argument has been whether the OP was wrong to basically accuse the person of being a bot and cause the argument. My point is that he jumped on the BLM too quickly as she only had the first boss to use enochian and that boss can be a pain to new BLM's. By all accounts her AoE damage was unremarkable at worst. I'm not familiar with all the bots out there but do you know of any that know when to AoE, know when to single target and know how to dodge AoE in movement heavy fights? I don't. Whether or not the OP had reason to believe the BLM was a bot is very relevant to this thread and he obviously got that call wrong.

Did I even quote you? I was responding to the argument as a whole. You aren't the only person to mention being able to clear without playing the job properly.

Either way, it was still a strawman argument.

[Kaurie]

I don't agree, I think my post was relevant. For a large proportion of this thread the argument has been whether the OP was wrong to basically accuse the person of being a bot and cause the argument. My point is that he jumped on the BLM too quickly as she only had the first boss to use enochian and that boss can be a pain to new BLM's. By all accounts her AoE damage was unremarkable at worst. I'm not familiar with all the bots out there but do you know of any that know when to AoE, know when to single target and know how to dodge AoE in movement heavy fights? I don't. Whether or not the OP had reason to believe the BLM was a bot is very relevant to this thread and he obviously got that call wrong.

I know very little about bots, and am sure that I've seen bots that I thought were actual players. We can't really make to much of an assumption on their aoe rotation, but Enochian giving a 5% buff to AoE is also significant. However, a perfectly acceptable response to the original question would be:
"I just got 60 and haven't really figured out how to use Enochian and Fire IV yet with all the aoes with that boss." or whatever.

I am not saying your post wasn't relevant, simply that it was about as relevant as hers. Her post made perfect sense too, as in "It's difficult to do this, so I am not going to bother." A lot of people in this thread have promoted that mentality as an acceptable defense.

[Agrios]

I didn't get past the first page but I can't help but think OP came off as kind of a dick. /shrug

[AnaviAnael]

I am not saying your post wasn't relevant, simply that it was about as relevant as hers. Her post made perfect sense too, as in "It's difficult to do this, so I am not going to bother." A lot of people in this thread have promoted that mentality as an acceptable defense.

Thank you! This was my whole point. Also, I will agree completely with Artemiz in that Enochian takes time to learn. I think all of us when we first hit 60 on BLM had it falling off left and right. One little screw up and it's gone.

[Thunda_Cat_SMASH]

Why thank you

But what if the DPS iLVL overgear the Tank? I don't agree, everyone should check aggro bars with colors, and on your party side with A, 2, 3 etc..

Whaaaaat, DPS overgear the tank? Unpossible. No one ever plays any alt jobs in dungeons or Amy kind of instances content, it's always savage level play style and gear or gtfo. Ain't nobody got time for dat!

/sarcasm

[Frederick22]

xD too rich really

P.S- Fixed your spelling and grammar as best I could ;D

You are being really rude. Thats your excuse? ok

[myahele]

Ah yes, there'll always be someone who'll spend time correcting grammar/ spelling rather than spend time making counter-arguments :\