Why are low standards for dps acceptable?

[Reilyn]

TC was not genuinely asking if the BLM was a bot. He was using it to insult the BLM for being so bad. I can't believe some people actually don't realize this.

-You can't prove the bolded.
-Tone doesn't carry over in text.
-BLM/THM is the game's most infamous class for being easily bottable

It's SUPER obvious that TC is frustrated at this point. He's asking a rhetorical question he already knows the answer to.

-If I went through the first boss (loot distribution in the picture) without anything that proves I'm playing with humans, I'd ask too.
-How do we know he already knew the answer to that? Anything that happened before that isn't in the picture.
-I've run dozens of dungeons with people that could be bots for all I know. I could go into a dungeon right now, and ask the most mute person in there if they are a bot after 15 minutes, and most normal people won't take it as an insult. OP could genuinely want to know after that length of time.

You're adding context that's absent, but unproven, and adding tone that doesn't exist in text. You're drawing too many assumptions on how the OP asked his first 2 questions, and what he implied in doing so. How do you actually know any of this from going off that picture alone?

[Ciri_Wolf]

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You're adding context that's absent, but unproven, and adding tone that doesn't exist in text. You're drawing too many assumptions on how the OP asked his first 2 questions, and what he implied in doing so. How do you actually know any of this from going off that picture alone?

Don't really have to, when I can just look at the time stamps and the rest of the conversation to know the "tone". His sarcastic "hello, is anyone there" all at the same time is enough to know he's not looking for an actual answer to that question. And then right after the BLM answers with a smiley, he immediately goes into it. If you can't see that, you're really dense. You're right, I don't know for sure. But neither do you, but you're desperately trying to defend TC being a jerk all the same.

[Reilyn]

Don't really have to, when I can just look at the time stamps and the rest of the conversation to know the "tone".

Actually no, no you can't. That's akin to saying 'I can read minds' or 'I can tell this guy is a murderer without evidence, just because he looks shady'. You're making guesses as to what the context is that made the OP ask his first question, which is clearly not there.

You do not know the tone. No one truly does except the people that were there.

And then right after the BLM answers with a smiley, he immediately goes into it.

So what you're saying is asking 'why aren't you using enochian' is 'immediately going into it'? Asking an honest question is offensive now?

That was the very next thing the OP responded with, and there's nothing aggressive about it, especially without tone.

If you can't see that, you're really dense. You're right, I don't know for sure. But neither do you, but you're desperately trying to defend TC being a jerk all the same.

He may or may not be a jerk. I don't even know the guy. You're painting him as one, when from what we can read in the chat log, he got attacked first. Asking questions =/= attacking someone.

He asked two questions.
First was answered sarcastically.
OP didn't make a scene about that.
OP's second was responded to with another question.
OP answered
OP was then told to shut up.

Did that OP really start it?

[Ciri_Wolf]

He may or may not be a jerk. I don't even know the guy. You're painting him as one, when from what we can read in the chat log, he got attacked first. Asking questions =/= attacking someone.

There is no may or may not. He posted a screen shot of him being a jerk and getting booted for it. Getting attacked first doesn't give anyone the right to be a jerk as well. They're both jerks. Asking stupid rhetorical questions is not nice. It doesn't even matter if i can prove he was a jerk or not, because he proved it after the fact anyway. Can you prove the BLM didn't talk beforehand? Can you proved TC wasn't being a jerk? You can't, because all we got was a screen shot of a player who got salty over getting kicked.

[Reilyn]

Asking stupid rhetorical questions is not nice.

You can't prove it was rhetorical, or meant to be insulting. As I've said, I'll ask if some people I group with are bots if there's a lack of sufficient human interaction before hand.

Would that make me inconsiderate?

Can you prove the BLM didn't talk before hand? Can you proved TC wasn't being a jerk? You can't

Neither can you. The difference between us is the fact I don't use that grey area to paint him as the bad guy. You're using what you don't know to do just that.

You kept trying to add context of what the situation was like before hand to discredit him.

I read the words for what they are and nothing more.

The rest of the convo was less than tasteful on both sides, but this is where it all started in that picture: him being attacked for asking two questions, and answering one directly.

[Ciri_Wolf]

You can't prove it was rhetorical, or meant to be insulting. As I've said, I'll ask if some people I group with are bots if there's a lack of sufficient human interaction before hand.

Would that make me inconsiderate?

Depends on how you worded it. "hello" "is anyone there" is clearly a frustrated question. If he simply asked if BLM was a bot, or asked the party, that would be different.

You kept trying to add context of what the situation was like before hand to discredit him.

Then aren't you doing the same to the BLM? The BLM asked TC if he was trying to tell a DPS how to DPS. How does that question make the BLM the bad guy, then? TC's answer was to shove the fact that he has lvl 60 BLM in his face and came off like an elitist. That's where it escalated. And then they both ended up looking like jerks. Regardless of whoever started it.

[Kaurie]

Depends on how you worded it. "hello" "is anyone there" is clearly a frustrated question. If he simply asked if BLM was a bot, or asked the party, that would be different.




Then aren't you doing the same to the BLM? The BLM asked TC if he was trying to tell a DPS how to DPS. How does that question make the BLM the bad guy, then? TC's answer was to shove the fact that he has lvl 60 BLM in his face and came off like an elitist. That's where it escalated. And then they both ended up looking like jerks. Regardless of whoever started it.

The first point in the TC's log that I would consider rude was "Shut up". Everything before it I read as a conversation.
"Hello" - fine,
"Is anyone there" Checking in because no response,
"is this a bot" - ok conclusion considering lack of response and skillset being used (that said it was rather rapid, all being within the same minute),
"yeah",
"why are you not using enochian" fair question
"wanna tell a dps how to dps" answering a question with a question, but fair enough
"yes" answers the question
"because I have a blm to 60" provides reasoning
"do me a favor" ...?
"shut up" First comment which -tone free- can objectively be considered rude.

[Reilyn]

Then aren't you doing the same to the BLM? The BLM asked TC if he was trying to tell a DPS how to DPS. How does that question make the BLM the bad guy, then?

1: that question didnt make the person who asked it the bad guy, and I never said it did.

TC's answer was to shove the fact that he has lvl 60 BLM in his face and came off like an elitist.

2: the OP answered the question of 'is he telling a dps how to dps' with yes, and why he may have been qualified to instruct

That's where it escalated.

No, this is:

3: the OP was then told to shut up

Get the facts straight, thank you.