Why are low standards for dps acceptable?

[Kaurie]

Except that there are no instructions. There is no in game message telling the player they will have new skills. There is a big difference in ignoring something and not knowing about something.

The first bolded part, I'm sorry I fail to see the difference in the two. Both are referring to the person as an idiot regardless of the difference in wording.

There are no in-game instructions, there is just inductive reasoning. Historically, you gained a job skill every 5 levels and class skills more often. You now gained 5 new levels, it is a logical conclusion that you would have at least 1 new skill. You check your quest journal and see where your last quest ended off, and teleport there. Now you see a ! and talk to the NPC to see a 50 quest, upon completion you'll get a 52 and 54. This is the worst case scenario, if you hadn't known that they moved job quests to 2 levels rather than 5, and/or if you did not take a look at the patch notes.

Honestly, I am surprised you were able to find the MSQ to Ishgard with the line of reasoning you are suggesting is normal.

[RiceisNice]

Except that there are no instructions. There is no in game message telling the player they will have new skills. There is a big difference in ignoring something and not knowing about something.

The first bolded part, I'm sorry I fail to see the difference in the two. Both are referring to the person as an idiot regardless of the difference in wording.

If you're really talking semantics (instead of understanding where I'm coming from), then you really are just arguing for the sake of arguing now :l

Honestly, I am surprised you were able to find the MSQ to Ishgard with the line of reasoning you are suggesting is normal.

There's also this, and the job quest npcs are instanced so you wouldn't see them on the map for the most part.

[Kuwagami]

I'm also interested in any arguments against this you may have. As in the bolded parts I have given reasons BLMs may not bother using Enochian or trying to keep it up. Why do you believe these are invalid?

I can get behind a BLm not being comfortable keeping enochian at all times. It takes time and practice to perfect a rotation.

Not even using it is downright idiotic and such people are not worth the time spent explaining them why they are idiots while not hurting their feelings. This is a 30s buff giving you 5% more damage. Not using it is akin to not being able to read. It's not like the Fate-levelling generation of players can still surprise me though. I think I've seen all kind of stupidity related to skills by now.

[Andrea]

In regards to a BLM using only their 2.0 rotation and nothing else not belonging in level 60 content I might agree with you if only it was required that they MUST use their 3.0 rotation to complete the content.

Just because you don't need to do something doesn't mean you shouldn't do it.

A tank can just spam flash and nothing else. Should they do it? No of course not they should help kill things.
A dragoon could just do heavy thrust and nothing else and clear a dungeon. Should they do it? No.

It not only makes the run take longer than it should but you are also slowing down 3-7 other people because you simply refuse to learn a new rotation. Im sorry but that is 100% rude in anyway no matter how someone tries to defend it.

[Ciri_Wolf]

TC was not genuinely asking if the BLM was a bot. He was using it to insult the BLM for being so bad. I can't believe some people actually don't realize this. Look at the time stamps. It's SUPER obvious that TC is frustrated at this point. He's asking a rhetorical question he already knows the answer to. What's even more funny is that the BLM did take his advice after TC got kicked.

[Maxidelta]

Seriously man, you should read the entire thread before making such a comment like that.

And maybe you shouldn't reply to a comment based on only your own assumption?

[Kaurie]

TC was not genuinely asking if the BLM was a bot. He was using it to insult the BLM for being so bad. I can't believe some people actually don't realize this. Look at the time stamps. It's SUPER obvious that TC is frustrated at this point. He's asking a rhetorical question he already knows the answer to. What's even more funny is that the BLM did take his advice after TC got kicked.

Forgive my ignorance. What does TC stand for?

[Ciri_Wolf]

Forgive my ignorance. What does TC stand for?

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[RiceisNice]

TC was not genuinely asking if the BLM was a bot. He was using it to insult the BLM for being so bad. I can't believe some people actually don't realize this. Look at the time stamps. It's SUPER obvious that TC is frustrated at this point. He's asking a rhetorical question he already knows the answer to. What's even more funny is that the BLM did take his advice after TC got kicked.

That's on the OP himself to answer. Everyon perceives it differently because there are bots in DF, and people more often than not, do not use party chat to communicate at all. I'd personally do a bot check if I'm genuinely concerned if one of my party member is a bot or not based on their actions.

[Reilyn]

TC was not genuinely asking if the BLM was a bot. He was using it to insult the BLM for being so bad. I can't believe some people actually don't realize this.

-You can't prove the bolded.
-Tone doesn't carry over in text.
-BLM/THM is the game's most infamous class for being easily bottable

It's SUPER obvious that TC is frustrated at this point. He's asking a rhetorical question he already knows the answer to.

-If I went through the first boss (loot distribution in the picture) without anything that proves I'm playing with humans, I'd ask too.
-How do we know he already knew the answer to that? Anything that happened before that isn't in the picture.
-I've run dozens of dungeons with people that could be bots for all I know. I could go into a dungeon right now, and ask the most mute person in there if they are a bot after 15 minutes, and most normal people won't take it as an insult. OP could genuinely want to know after that length of time.

You're adding context that's absent, but unproven, and adding tone that doesn't exist in text. You're drawing too many assumptions on how the OP asked his first 2 questions, and what he implied in doing so. How do you actually know any of this from going off that picture alone?