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    TC was not genuinely asking if the BLM was a bot. He was using it to insult the BLM for being so bad. I can't believe some people actually don't realize this. Look at the time stamps. It's SUPER obvious that TC is frustrated at this point. He's asking a rhetorical question he already knows the answer to. What's even more funny is that the BLM did take his advice after TC got kicked.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ciri_Wolf View Post
    TC was not genuinely asking if the BLM was a bot. He was using it to insult the BLM for being so bad. I can't believe some people actually don't realize this. Look at the time stamps. It's SUPER obvious that TC is frustrated at this point. He's asking a rhetorical question he already knows the answer to. What's even more funny is that the BLM did take his advice after TC got kicked.
    Forgive my ignorance. What does TC stand for?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaurie View Post
    Forgive my ignorance. What does TC stand for?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ciri_Wolf View Post
    TC was not genuinely asking if the BLM was a bot. He was using it to insult the BLM for being so bad. I can't believe some people actually don't realize this. Look at the time stamps. It's SUPER obvious that TC is frustrated at this point. He's asking a rhetorical question he already knows the answer to. What's even more funny is that the BLM did take his advice after TC got kicked.
    That's on the OP himself to answer. Everyon perceives it differently because there are bots in DF, and people more often than not, do not use party chat to communicate at all. I'd personally do a bot check if I'm genuinely concerned if one of my party member is a bot or not based on their actions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RiceisNice View Post
    That's on the OP himself to answer. Everyon perceives it differently because there are bots in DF, and people more often than not, do not use party chat to communicate at all. I'd personally do a bot check if I'm genuinely concerned if one of my party member is a bot or not based on their actions.
    There are tell-tale signs of botting. I'm willing to bet it was obvious the BLM was not a bot simply because they didn't use one skill. TC obvious cherry picked a small screenshot out of a whole dungeon. Wonder what the entire dungeon looked like. Either way, TC acted like an ass, and got treated like one
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ciri_Wolf View Post
    TC acted like an ass
    Within the first two questions he asked that got him targeted? That's only what you'd like to believe.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ciri_Wolf View Post
    I'm willing to bet it was obvious
    Oh so you don't know for sure?

    Stop adding tone and context that you can't even prove was there please.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reilyn View Post
    Within the first two questions he asked that got him targeted? That's only what you'd like to believe.
    No, within the entire screenshot. He's a jerk in the following lines. And somewhat on here.



    Oh so you don't know for sure?

    Stop adding tone and context that you can't even prove was there please.
    Or you could take your own advice? I don't really need to, though, since the rest of his responses showed what kind of character he is anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ciri_Wolf View Post
    There are tell-tale signs of botting. I'm willing to bet it was obvious the BLM was not a bot simply because they didn't use one skill. TC obvious cherry picked a small screenshot out of a whole dungeon. Wonder what the entire dungeon looked like. Either way, TC acted like an ass, and got treated like one
    I read the conversation in a vastly different way than you did.

    From what I can tell on context, they had just received loot and presumably have had 0 chat thus far. BLM is not using Enochian, so not using Blizz4/Fire IV, and could presumably be using just Fire I and blizzard for MP. It is quite possible that they are a bot.

    Even if you read it otherwise, I would read it more as a joke. "Hello? Is anyone there? Is this thing on?" due to the dead silence up to that point. I wouldn't take that as any sort of offense. The explosion that occurred afterward is not at all on the same level as the original message.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaurie View Post
    I read the conversation is a vastly different way than you did.

    From what I can tell on context, they had just received loot and presumably have had 0 chat thus far. BLM is not using Enochian, so not using Blizz4/Fire IV, and could presumably be using just Fire I and blizzard for MP. It is quite possible that they are a bot.

    Even if you read it otherwise, I would read it more as a joke. "Hello? Is anyone there? Is this thing on?" due to the dead silence up to that point. I wouldn't take that as any sort of offense. The explosion that occurred afterward is not at all on the same level as the original message.
    That's perfectly understandable. TC and BLM were still jerks. If you wanna teach someone, don't be a jerk. People will immediately tune you out. Since the BLM started doing what TC wanted, it was apparent that the BLM was willing to take advice. No way to know tone on internet, so you have to be careful what you say.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ciri_Wolf View Post
    There are tell-tale signs of botting. I'm willing to bet it was obvious the BLM was not a bot simply because they didn't use one skill. TC obvious cherry picked a small screenshot out of a whole dungeon. Wonder what the entire dungeon looked like. Either way, TC acted like an ass, and got treated like one
    There are botting scrips that play the 2.0 BLM rotation (which in otherwords, is not using enochian) fine for the most part, maybe missing 1 or 2 casts by swapping too soon.

    My side's interpretation is any more valid than yours, but my question is when did TC look like he acted like an ass within that screenshot? Granted like you aid, there's no other dialogue other than the screenshot, but there's the possibility of there not being any previous dialogue to begin with.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ciri_Wolf View Post
    Then aren't you doing the same to the BLM? The BLM asked TC if he was trying to tell a DPS how to DPS. How does that question make the BLM the bad guy, then? TC's answer was to shove the fact that he has lvl 60 BLM in his face and came off like an elitist. That's where it escalated. And then they both ended up looking like jerks. Regardless of whoever started it.
    On the BLM's side, he already told OP to "shut up" after "telling a dps how to dps". And there goes that elitist word again =/
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