Why are low standards for dps acceptable?

[Jim_Berry]

So when you finished your 50 DRG job quest, you didnt notice there was another one ? LOL

Your are just an example of what is happening, people just dont care to progress on their job and all that want is to skip everything and going as fast as possible to lvl 60.

I was NIN since ROG released, and was Lv50 a few days after that. There is no info in-game about Oboro having a Lv50 quest when Heavensward released. Fortunately, I read the patch notes.

[PArcher]

I was NIN since ROG released, and was Lv50 a few days after that. There is no info in-game about Oboro having a Lv50 quest when Heavensward released. Fortunately, I read the patch notes.

Its a common-sense thing to understand that level cap increase = new skills. If they're not in your actions tab, they must be tied to your job...which means quests.

[TheUltimateSeph]

Its a common-sense thing to understand that level cap increase = new skills. If they're not in your actions tab, they must be tied to your job...which means quests.

Maybe to you? This game shares a server with PSN and many people who play have never played an MMO before. I'm not saying it's just the Playstation crowd either, lots of people who play on PC are new to MMOs too. That said, I think there being no in-game info about new job quests is a totally valid excuse for not doing them as you don't know they exist. It's not common-sense.

Edit: I'm not going to go through and read the massive wall of scrolling text that is the patch notes in it's entirety every single freaking patch. That's the last thing I want to do right after a patch anyway, I want to dive in and start experiencing all the cool new stuff.

[Jim_Berry]

Its a common-sense thing to understand that level cap increase = new skills. If they're not in your actions tab, they must be tied to your job...which means quests.

You missed the point.

I'm simply saying that I began doing the MSQ right at release, and was leveling there. The Lv50 quest (after already completing all job quests prior to HW's release) did not (or does not) show in the quest list. I read patch notes after I was Lv56 and was at work with some free time and was like "Oh crap, I've been sucking lol...".

[TheUltimateSeph]

So when you finished your 50 DRG job quest, you didnt notice there was another one ? LOL

Your are just an example of what is happening, people just dont care to progress on their job and all that want is to skip everything and going as fast as possible to lvl 60.

Sorry I was under the impression that the new 52-60 job quests didn't exist until HW release? If I'm wrong please correct me, oh glorious one, but I fail to see how someone, not knowing they had more job quests when they had already finished all the ones that existed previously, should be at fault for not magically knowing more unlocked. I obviously DO care or I wouldn't have gone and completed them after someone informed me they existed? Please just, gtfo.

[PArcher]

Sorry I was under the impression that the new 52-60 job quests didn't exist until HW release? If I'm wrong please correct me, oh glorious one, but I fail to see how someone, not knowing they had more job quests when they had already finished all the ones that existed previously, should be at fault for not magically knowing more unlocked. I obviously DO care or I wouldn't have gone and completed them after someone informed me they existed? Please just, gtfo.

I hate double-posting...but yes, it IS your fault for thinking a level increase had no new skills to go along with it. At the very least, you should read the patch notes...

[Frederick22]

Sorry I was under the impression that the new 52-60 job quests didn't exist until HW release? If I'm wrong please correct me, oh glorious one, but I fail to see how someone, not knowing they had more job quests when they had already finished all the ones that existed previously, should be at fault for not magically knowing more unlocked. I obviously DO care or I wouldn't have gone and completed them after someone informed me they existed? Please just, gtfo.

Well you didnt mension that this was when HW have not being released yet, But readin the way of how you talked, it was moslty assume that you didnt check the orther jobs quests.
Paying a look to the patch notes is good from time to time, but i understand that some people dont even bother in tring to read or did you at least watched any of the videos prior to HW ?

Thanks for insulting me too.

[Reilyn]

With how fast people can level now days thanks to how easy SE has made it to get to 60 it's really not that hard to understand how people can not be comfortable or all that knowledgeable about their classes end game skills when they first reach end game.

The more I hear this excuse the less I believe it.

For a time, I even questioned if the game itself didn't have enough teaching tools for the player, because I thought my opinion after 6 years of WoW experience couldn't be trusted. But now, I firmly believe it isn't the fault of the game when people refuse to read, and try the skills that are automatically placed on their actionbars for them as they level, and comprehend the applications of said skill! The tooltip text is very concise. I assume better of the community, and everyone playing has some degree of comprehension, to the point where if they don't understand something as basic as the two 3-step DRG combos by the time they're 50, they're probably not stupid; they just chose not to read anything.

You not realizing there's more class quests is pretty much your fault.

Sure BotD, and gierskogul takes time to get used to, but as long as you try to use them/learn to use them as the dungeon goes on, that's fine. Completely ignoring new skills like the never-minuet bards, or the never-BotD dragoons, is a different case; laziness. The hardest part of DPS to me, is honestly the more nuanced art of getting the most out of OGCDs, and dps cooldowns. SMN being the king of dps timing and nuances... ugh.

[Jim_Berry]

There's a saying that if you CAN'T tolerate different playstyles, don't join Duty Finder.

[Kuroyasha]

There's a saying that if you CAN'T tolerate different playstyles, don't join Duty Finder.

Ignoring the core of the job is not a "different" playstyle. It's being bad and holding up the pace b/c it's my party i can do bad dps if i want to.