Can we please stop locking content out of DF?

[Callback]

Considering how you only have one battle class to 60, in Void Ark gear and not a single piece of raiding gear (Alex Savage or Thordan EX) you haven't quite seen the challenging fights this game can present.

Only for lack of a group who wants to bother. If only it were in DF...

Expert roulette is too boring/grindy to bother with eso gear. I meet min ilv for the whole game, that's plenty. I just need to run it now.

And if you seriously expect me to get 2 combat classes up you are insane. Who has time for a grind that boring? The length wouldn't be THAT bad if there was even an ounce of satisfying gameplay to be had through it, but there's not. Just spamming point-and-click not-combat for an eternity. I can't even stomach LNC enough to get b4b. It's not worth it. It's too BORING.

[m3eansean]

Only for lack of a group who wants to bother. If only it were in DF...

Expert roulette is too boring/grindy to bother with eso gear. I meet min ilv for the whole game, that's plenty. I just need to run it now.

And if you seriously expect me to get 2 combat classes up you are insane. Who has time for a grind that boring? The length wouldn't be THAT bad if there was even an ounce of satisfying gameplay to be had through it, but there's not. Just spamming point-and-click not-combat for an eternity. I can't even stomach LNC enough to get b4b. It's not worth it. It's too BORING.

Since your a ninja in non-optimal gear without blood for blood, I wouldn't want to group up with you either to be honest. You would be a strain on any group in regards to dps checks in Thordan and Alex Savage. Sounds like you despise the game anyway, so its probably not the game for you.

[Andrea]

Only for lack of a group who wants to bother. If only it were in DF...

Expert roulette is too boring/grindy to bother with eso gear. I meet min ilv for the whole game, that's plenty. I just need to run it now.

And if you seriously expect me to get 2 combat classes up you are insane. Who has time for a grind that boring? The length wouldn't be THAT bad if there was even an ounce of satisfying gameplay to be had through it, but there's not. Just spamming point-and-click not-combat for an eternity. I can't even stomach LNC enough to get b4b. It's not worth it. It's too BORING.

If it isnt worth it for B4B it also isn't worth being in an end game raid with you.

[Callback]

If it isnt worth it for B4B it also isn't worth being in an end game raid with you.

Purgatory then? DF content too boring to be worth doing, and can't get into non-DF content to even see if it's remotely not boring.

[Kaurie]

Purgatory then? DF content too boring to be worth doing, and can't get into non-DF content to even see if it's remotely not boring.

You are almost as good of a troll as The_Greatest_Evil, but not quite ^.^

[Callback]

You are almost as good of a troll as The_Greatest_Evil, but not quite ^.^

Maybe I'm just not expressing myself in the right way then.


I want to try the actual endgame to see if it's exciting at all like I was promised by the people who convinced me to join in the first place. I have no way to get a group to do it and even find out. So I'm stuck with all this wasted time building up this character to hit that ilvl195 req for Thordan without any way to even see if it was worth it. It's depressing.

[Kaurie]

Maybe I'm just not expressing myself in the right way then.

I want to try the actual endgame to see if it's exciting at all like I was promised by the people who convinced me to join in the first place. I have no way to get a group to do it and even find out. So I'm stuck with all this wasted time building up this character to hit that ilvl195 req for Thordan without any way to even see if it was worth it. It's depressing.

Ah I'm sorry I thought you were actually trolling. A lot of your posts go on to talk about how this game sucks, and requires no skill etc - but then follow it up by showing how you haven't taken part in end-game or even obtained your (nearly necessary) cross class skills. You have a lot of negativity in your posts, and if you want people to take you seriously, try to bring a bit more of a positive light. Remember the people you are addressing do like the game, and telling them that the game sucks and takes no skill is just offensive to your reader.

[Meirii]

To me there really is no reason to lock the content out, its can be very challenging to find a group and many can fall apart faster than a DF group.

[Undeadfire]

DF will stand a chance in A1S/A2S but god no for A3S/A4S, you're living in a dream world from reality if you think you stand a fighting chance with a DF group.

No casters for A2S? Good Bye. No one able to drive? Good bye.

No Warrior and too many melee DPS, or no melee DPS for A3S? Good Bye. (Protean Wave will wipe the group in an instant without defined communication as it's the starting phase) Did I ever mention DPS check is pretty heavy? Digititus requires Voice Communication, you can't do it without in the final phase, including the tethers in add phase. Unless you got some very high end DPS, dying even once or twice is a game over. Brink of Death: you're out fully and not surviving anything.

A4S? Don't even bother, unless you can control the quarantines, you're not winning, not even close. You have to strictly limit it to 3 (Tanks will die if more) and the DPS check is taken further. Dying even once is game over, unless you're on the final phase doing Pentacles. You cannot defeat this fight unless double melee, best around HQ food, HQ X/Draco Pots for the 3rd leg, Back on your feet 2 FC buff for pentacles and optimal DPS of what the job can do, DF players will never do/have this.

In short words, Alexander Savage requires strict setups to optimize the DPS checks. Melee DPS clock the highest DPS while Mch/Brd do the lowest, tanks have to contribute heavy DPS to push hard enough in A3s/A4s.

They won't put DF for that reason, it's a waste of time and it's going to congest serious raid groups who are actually progressing it. SE are not going to put it on DF, no matter how many times you complain upon 6 months of being out, they won't do it. It will start angering the raid groups who agreed to show up at a set time only to be told the DF server is full, I would seriously be angry if PUGs are prioritizing over my Raid Group for some mere curiosity when I could be going in clearing it, wasting 8 man groups time. The other reason? To avoid lag from the server while in battle. Raid server is an exclusive server for Raid Groups, only to be used on the latest raid (Captain Obvious)

MMOs are not meant for everyone and paying monthly to a MMO doesn't give you any right to demand I should be having this equip, or have this fight in DF. Savage raiding takes more than 1 week to clear fully (Excluding FCOB), it will take you months upon months if you seriously think you stand a fighting chance at release. No one is going to stoop to that level of patience just to win a fight. It's annoying enough for people to get carried and claim they completed the fight only to be shown they're a let down, this is what the JP avoid and successful in doing it.

I'm sorry if your life takes too much of your time for high end raiding and you will NEVER get proper experience in any of the fights.

[DarkB]

They won't put DF for that reason, it's a waste of time and it's going to congest serious raid groups who are actually progressing it. SE are not going to put it on DF, no matter how many times you complain upon 6 months of being out, they won't do it. It will start angering the raid groups who agreed to show up at a set time only to be told the DF server is full, I would seriously be angry if PUGs are prioritizing over my Raid Group for some mere curiosity when I could be going in clearing it, wasting 8 man groups time. The other reason? To avoid lag from the server while in battle. Raid server is an exclusive server for Raid Groups, only to be used on the latest raid (Captain Obvious)

MMOs are not meant for everyone and paying monthly to a MMO doesn't give you any right to demand I should be having this equip, or have this fight in DF. Savage raiding takes more than 1 week to clear fully (Excluding FCOB), it will take you months upon months if you seriously think you stand a fighting chance at release. No one is going to stoop to that level of patience just to win a fight. It's annoying enough for people to get carried and claim they completed the fight only to be shown they're a let down, this is what the JP avoid and successful in doing it.

I'm sorry if your life takes too much of your time for high end raiding and you will NEVER get proper experience in any of the fights.

Wait lemme get this right. You are saying that the reason why they dont put Savage on DF is because of its mechanics (which havin DF available would produce more people tryin the content > getting used to mechanic > learning mechanic) and because its gonna congest serious raid groups who are actually progressing it (how on earth do you even come up with this total nonsense? lol congest how? Hey you ok man?).

Last part of your post is the most rude, childish, unreal, nonsense words i've ever read since years playing online. "MMOs are not meant for everyone and paying monthly to a MMO doesn't give you any right to demand I should be having this equip, or have this fight in DF" But it gives you the right to think that other people shouldnt have an alternative? get off your white pedestal.

Stunned how bad this community has become lol, yet funny to see the level of nonsense you can find on forums.