Can we please stop locking content out of DF?

[Sove92]

I had no issue clearing all of Alex normal in the first week using duty finder. Sure the terribads get in, but you have to treat every DF party like a learning party that might clear, not a farming static.

The terribads didn't get past A1 all that fast, so once you were through with it, the rest was relatively terribad-free.

Same reason why Ifrit EX was somewhat cleareable in DF week 1.

[ThinkPInk]

Completely agree with the OP. Please add all content upon release to the Duty Finder. Even if most don't get a clear it's still providing valuable experience, and to be quite frank; most Party Finder groups are just as unorganized as the duty finder population. Please stop making excuses to keep people looked out of content. If people want to wipe all night; let them. If people want to have less loot in exchange for gaining more experience or for offering a helpful hand; let them. This should be the choice of the individual player; not the community.

[FeliAiko]

I had no issue clearing all of Alex normal in the first week using duty finder.

The fight was designed to be cleared in a day, let alone a week. Hence why it works as intended in DF, the home of non challenging (or heavily nerfed) content.

Savage is intended to take weeks to months for the average static to deal with, requiring a high level of teamwork and coordination. That type of environment doesn't work in DF, especially with a community that has a different approach to how DF is used compared to other servers.

[Waeksyn]

I agree with the OP that all content should go into DF on the day of its release.

The anonymity of the DF encourages people to participate. Once you participate, you learn and get better which then rubs off on others who are learning. Nobody benefits from limiting the number of people participating in content.

The only reason that the most challenging content is not released to DF straight away is to make the hard core raiding crowd feel special. It's an ego gift to that most ego driven crowd.

[KarstenS]

They talked about this in a Live Letter or interview from the era following the original EX primals (which were originally in the DF right away).

The story and the HM versions were solo queueable in DF.

As far I remember, the ex versions were premade right at that start. Solo queue got introduced at a later time together with echo buff.

Once you participate, you learn and get better which then rubs off on others who are learning.

What do you think you will learn? 99% of DF parties will not get past Faust in A1S even in full i210. The other 1% will end not long after that because the timer is running out.

[ValkyrieL]

The number of threads here asking for nerf will be out of control.
Wiping with a static is one thing, wiping with randoms on the first/2nd phase every time will probably just make more players quit lol

[StouterTaru]

Savage is intended to take weeks to months for the average static to deal with, requiring a high level of teamwork and coordination. That type of environment doesn't work in DF, especially with a community that has a different approach to how DF is used compared to other servers.

So people should have to jump through a couple extra hoops to enter it, and there should be no practice outside statics?

And what about the EX primals? Odin was in the DF from the start, and it was about on par with the ex primals in 2.x.

[KarstenS]

Odin was in the DF from the start, and it was about on par with the ex primals in 2.x.

No. It wasn't. Odin was a short DPS race with some mechanics.

[MeiUshu]

No. It wasn't. Odin was a short DPS race with some mechanics.

some mechanics that still require lots and lots and lots of attempts and no echo in that fight. If that is possible for Odin, is also possible for any others...despite the *some*..*few* *many* mechanics, race dps, it doesnt matter, the point is ODIN was from start in DF....ergo if feasable and no reasons for others NOT to be in there (sync of course). People nowadays want it soo easy that they go UNSYNC, so really..where is the difficulty ? ..you sure is those that want DF that want it easy? I am not that certain

[Kaurie]

Do Savage first, then tell us if you still want to try and clear that with 7 randoms

Honestly, I feel that it still should be in the DF. It's pretty easy for us to choose not to queue in with random people if we want.