Can we please stop locking content out of DF?

[FinnReid]

I'm genuinely curious as to why there is a content lock-out from DF on things like EX primals and Savage when they are released. I have unpredictable work hours, I can't commit to a static, and sometimes I get off work in the early morning hours when it's hard to get a PF group going.

So why is it in place? If I want to subject myself to DF in attempts to clear, shouldn't that be my choice? Regardless of how bad DF can be sometimes, most people go in with the mindset to clear and isn't that much different from getting a group of randoms

[CookieMonsta]

Do Savage first, then tell us if you still want to try and clear that with 7 randoms

[DarkB]

Do Savage first, then tell us if you still want to try and clear that with 7 randoms

Closed mind much? He just said he cant commit to a static because of his work hours, and you ask him to do savage first with whom? Beside i have no clue what is the problem for people like you (which indeed are defending SE choice to lock out savage off DF) if people want to have more options. Not like they are gonna remove your way of approaching the content right?

Usually people use DF to try out fights, not to really expect to win. So i have no clue why some things are locked out of DF. It helps getting into the fight and getting used to mechanics, there are no cons to this. Its quite stupid to not have everything DFable.

[CookieMonsta]

Closed mind much?
Usually people use DF to try out fights, not to really expect to win. So i have no clue why some things are locked out of DF. It helps getting into the fight and getting used to mechanics, there are no cons to this. Its quite stupid to not have everything DFable.

Its not hard to put up a Yolo learning PF though. Alex Savage is NOT exactly content that brings out the best in people. Imagine the rage and flaming that will occur, this is exactly the toxicity that SE wants to avoid. Why do you think the Savage/Extreme fights get heavy nerfs before going on DF? even to this day there are tears shed over RavEx, let alone ThordanEX.

IMO, the main reason people like (though I'm in no way implying you or the OP) having things in the DF is the easy carry due to the leaving penalty. I know, because a whole bunch of JP players dragged my scrubby bum through Titan HM DF for the relic (Though I was too noob back then to realize what was happening).

PF, while being elitist, allows at least some order of people going to where their experience is appropriate. Hell, A3S is hard enough even with a familiar team and excellent communication.

[Kaurie]

Do Savage first, then tell us if you still want to try and clear that with 7 randoms

Honestly, I feel that it still should be in the DF. It's pretty easy for us to choose not to queue in with random people if we want.

[Archaell]

You don't want to do savage even with a group of non randoms... oh wait, that's my opinion.

The clear rate in pugs aside, the option is still an option. If people want to do it in DF why should they be stopped from spending their time wiping? They can make their own choices.

Who knows, maybe after the initial rush period most of the bads could give up and eventually make it pugable.

Also people can join DF even with premade groups. Maybe someone is just missing a healer, maybe two light groups could join in etc. It wouldn't be entirely impossible.

[Ronyx]

I'm genuinely curious as to why there is a content lock-out from DF on things like EX primals and Savage when they are released. I have unpredictable work hours, I can't commit to a static, and sometimes I get off work in the early morning hours when it's hard to get a PF group going.

So why is it in place? If I want to subject myself to DF in attempts to clear, shouldn't that be my choice? Regardless of how bad DF can be sometimes, most people go in with the mindset to clear and isn't that much different from getting a group of randoms

Don't worry dude, the nerfs are coming and it will be at the DF in like 1 month or less.

[Archaell]

Don't worry dude, the nerfs are coming and it will be at the DF in like 1 month or less.

Let's ignore the part where the OP right in the first sentence said "when they are released".

What is the point of useless content in the DF? It is not like it gives you anything else than items, which will be useless.

[ErzaScarlet77]

ye splease. i sitll havent even entered kotr ex because everyone wants experience players, but i cant be an experienced player if i cant even enter it in the first place

[Yasuhiro]

ye splease. i sitll havent even entered kotr ex because everyone wants experience players, but i cant be an experienced player if i cant even enter it in the first place

"Gilgamesh"
There's your problem. Move to a good server like Tonberry, learning parties all the time.