Can we please stop locking content out of DF?

[StouterTaru]

Alex NM now

Alex NM was in DF on day one of its release.

[FeliAiko]

Alex NM was in DF on day one of its release.

Yeah, easy mode content was in DF on release, which some people still can't handle with i210 gear. That's the point. Yet having far more difficult content in DF on release would be a good idea?

A community that couldn't handle Steps on release wants the hardest content thrown in DF on release. Hilarious.

[StouterTaru]

Yeah, easy mode content was in DF on release, which some people still can't handle with i210 gear. That's the point. Yet having far more difficult content in DF on release would be a good idea?

I had no issue clearing all of Alex normal in the first week using duty finder. Sure the terribads get in, but you have to treat every DF party like a learning party that might clear, not a farming static.

[Sove92]

I had no issue clearing all of Alex normal in the first week using duty finder. Sure the terribads get in, but you have to treat every DF party like a learning party that might clear, not a farming static.

The terribads didn't get past A1 all that fast, so once you were through with it, the rest was relatively terribad-free.

Same reason why Ifrit EX was somewhat cleareable in DF week 1.

[FeliAiko]

I had no issue clearing all of Alex normal in the first week using duty finder.

The fight was designed to be cleared in a day, let alone a week. Hence why it works as intended in DF, the home of non challenging (or heavily nerfed) content.

Savage is intended to take weeks to months for the average static to deal with, requiring a high level of teamwork and coordination. That type of environment doesn't work in DF, especially with a community that has a different approach to how DF is used compared to other servers.

[StouterTaru]

Savage is intended to take weeks to months for the average static to deal with, requiring a high level of teamwork and coordination. That type of environment doesn't work in DF, especially with a community that has a different approach to how DF is used compared to other servers.

So people should have to jump through a couple extra hoops to enter it, and there should be no practice outside statics?

And what about the EX primals? Odin was in the DF from the start, and it was about on par with the ex primals in 2.x.

[KarstenS]

Odin was in the DF from the start, and it was about on par with the ex primals in 2.x.

No. It wasn't. Odin was a short DPS race with some mechanics.

[MeiUshu]

No. It wasn't. Odin was a short DPS race with some mechanics.

some mechanics that still require lots and lots and lots of attempts and no echo in that fight. If that is possible for Odin, is also possible for any others...despite the *some*..*few* *many* mechanics, race dps, it doesnt matter, the point is ODIN was from start in DF....ergo if feasable and no reasons for others NOT to be in there (sync of course). People nowadays want it soo easy that they go UNSYNC, so really..where is the difficulty ? ..you sure is those that want DF that want it easy? I am not that certain

[FeliAiko]

So people should have to jump through a couple extra hoops to enter it, and there should be no practice outside statics?

As if Party Finder doesn't exist... and what do you know, there's server communities that use PF for that very purpose (and even for straight clears) for the benefit of those unable (or unwilling) to commit to a static.

And what about the EX primals?

What about them? They don't end up in DF on launch, and those are tiered below 8 man raids in difficulty.

Odin was in the DF from the start, and it was about on par with the ex primals in 2.x.

No it wasn't. At best it was Titan HM difficulty, and even then I'm probably giving it too much credit.

[StouterTaru]

What about them? They don't end up in DF on launch, and those are tiered below 8 man raids in difficulty.

That's exactly my point. EX Primals don't require elaborate explaining of mechanics and coordination of who is doing what, so why are they left out of the DF at launch? The mechanics are blow up adds, dodge telegraphed attacks, and occasionally don't fall off. What part of that requires a premade party?

Odin had a dps/healer/tank check that was higher than any other post-PF straight to DF content by quite a bit. Titan difficulty was 80% hardware/ping check.

The funny thing about content is that it's easier to beat the first couple weeks than it is 3-6 months later. Steps of Faith was a whole lot easier to get through in the first week than it was the last week before the nerf. The same goes for all content that isn't a unforgiving gear check.