Can we please stop locking content out of DF?

[FeliAiko]

You have the Party Finder, which people should be taking advantage of (as some servers do) instead of looking to DF as a practice mode (where any supposed progress you make is lost after the instance ends, as you're likely to never see those players again to build on said progress). Even when nerfed, the previous Coils were a gamble in DF. Alex NM now with overgeared players is still a joke trying to clear sometimes. Throwing raids designed for teamwork and coordinated play into the randomness of the Duty Finder would be stupid.

[StouterTaru]

Alex NM now

Alex NM was in DF on day one of its release.

[FeliAiko]

Alex NM was in DF on day one of its release.

Yeah, easy mode content was in DF on release, which some people still can't handle with i210 gear. That's the point. Yet having far more difficult content in DF on release would be a good idea?

A community that couldn't handle Steps on release wants the hardest content thrown in DF on release. Hilarious.

[StouterTaru]

Yeah, easy mode content was in DF on release, which some people still can't handle with i210 gear. That's the point. Yet having far more difficult content in DF on release would be a good idea?

I had no issue clearing all of Alex normal in the first week using duty finder. Sure the terribads get in, but you have to treat every DF party like a learning party that might clear, not a farming static.

[Sove92]

I had no issue clearing all of Alex normal in the first week using duty finder. Sure the terribads get in, but you have to treat every DF party like a learning party that might clear, not a farming static.

The terribads didn't get past A1 all that fast, so once you were through with it, the rest was relatively terribad-free.

Same reason why Ifrit EX was somewhat cleareable in DF week 1.

[FeliAiko]

I had no issue clearing all of Alex normal in the first week using duty finder.

The fight was designed to be cleared in a day, let alone a week. Hence why it works as intended in DF, the home of non challenging (or heavily nerfed) content.

Savage is intended to take weeks to months for the average static to deal with, requiring a high level of teamwork and coordination. That type of environment doesn't work in DF, especially with a community that has a different approach to how DF is used compared to other servers.

[StouterTaru]

Savage is intended to take weeks to months for the average static to deal with, requiring a high level of teamwork and coordination. That type of environment doesn't work in DF, especially with a community that has a different approach to how DF is used compared to other servers.

So people should have to jump through a couple extra hoops to enter it, and there should be no practice outside statics?

And what about the EX primals? Odin was in the DF from the start, and it was about on par with the ex primals in 2.x.

[KarstenS]

Odin was in the DF from the start, and it was about on par with the ex primals in 2.x.

No. It wasn't. Odin was a short DPS race with some mechanics.

[FeliAiko]

So people should have to jump through a couple extra hoops to enter it, and there should be no practice outside statics?

As if Party Finder doesn't exist... and what do you know, there's server communities that use PF for that very purpose (and even for straight clears) for the benefit of those unable (or unwilling) to commit to a static.

And what about the EX primals?

What about them? They don't end up in DF on launch, and those are tiered below 8 man raids in difficulty.

Odin was in the DF from the start, and it was about on par with the ex primals in 2.x.

No it wasn't. At best it was Titan HM difficulty, and even then I'm probably giving it too much credit.