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  1. #131
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    LaylaTsarra's Avatar
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    Y'sira Kurai
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    Halicarnassus
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    Conjurer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by SlyTribal View Post
    Would you defend a Bard who only wanted to play the support side and purely sang songs without shooting or the other way around?
    Oh all I do is play songs.... was I supposed to dps too? No one told me, I thought that was the healers job. Oh thank you.
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  2. #132
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    SpookyGhost's Avatar
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    Kori Fleming
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    Cerberus
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    Marauder Lv 80
    ABC.

    Always be casting.

    No damage to heal? DPS. Damage that needs healing? Heal.
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  3. #133
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    AskaRay's Avatar
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    Aeon Rakshasa
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    Lich
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    Bard Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by SlyTribal View Post
    I just want to know, in all honesty from the people defending Healers not using DPS in their downtime, would you still defend a tank who back tanked while using flash, not DPSing, or only using a single hate move even. Maybe a Melee standing in an AoE that would otherwise force him to move out of range, so he can max out the dps, knowing healers are only healing and would be able to cure through it. Would you defend a Bard who only wanted to play the support side and purely sang songs without shooting or the other way around?
    Yes if the tank made sure I wasn't being killed. Who cares?
    Also melee DPS already do that so pffffffffft
    Also good to know that Bard is now an official support role, always thought my red harp meant DPS but sweet, I'll just sing and stand there from now on.
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  4. #134
    Player Kosmos992k's Avatar
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    Kosmos Meishou
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    Behemoth
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    Paladin Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by AeraLure View Post
    Yeah. Healers are expected to dps while healing, especially the case if someone in the party has full Eso gear because they will be used to a healer doing that in end game content. It's just the norm.
    Correction: it's the norm at end-game, not in normal content. Time for you to adjust your expectations. Please do not continue to spread the end-game meta to normal content.
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  5. #135
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    Andrea's Avatar
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    Princess Andrea
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    Leviathan
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    Alchemist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Kosmos992k View Post
    Correction: it's the norm at end-game, not in normal content. Time for you to adjust your expectations. Please do not continue to spread the end-game meta to normal content.
    Heaven forbid people try to get other people to improve.

    If you are just healing and not DPSing in this game at all as a healer you must stand around an awful lot and not do anything.

    I get that people may be new to healing, I get that people may not be as skilled at healing as some. But to stand around and not do anything just because "Herp a derp Im a healer, I only heal and not DPS" is the definition of being lazy.
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  6. #136
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    Skivvy's Avatar
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    Boo Box
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    Rafflesia
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    Sage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Bixillarla View Post
    Excuse me it is not being lazy. I took healer to heal not DPS. If I wanted to DPS I would play a DPS class. If I keep everyone alive then I am doing my job.

    Do you also expect the DPS to throw heals too? If no then why do you expect healers to DPS?
    Healers come with some attack spells built into the base class, and so I would say it's more a matter of just utilizing your skills as a healer. If a person isn't comfortable maintaining the party and DPSing, I do understand, but to completely go the "Nope! NO DPS FROM ME EVER" route is a bit silly.

    In case this helps any discussion, no, I don't really raid. Void ark is the highest for me. I will always DPS where I can, otherwise I personally do get bored and feel lazy.

    Do i expect other healers to do the same? Not really, but it does help to speed things up.

    The only time I've been annoyed by someone not DPSing as a healer was in a Sastasha NM run. Instead of doing anything productive, he just let his fairy heal and was dancing/emoting almost the entire time. That is just a slap in the face.
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    Last edited by Skivvy; 01-04-2016 at 05:22 AM.

  7. #137
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    Zojha's Avatar
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    Lodestone Bait
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    Pandaemonium
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    Gladiator Lv 1
    Quote Originally Posted by Andrea View Post
    But to stand around and not do anything just because "Herp a derp Im a healer, I only heal and not DPS" is the definition of being lazy.
    What if they were overhealing instead?

    They'd press just as many buttons as if they were DPSing, so you can't call them lazy anymore. Would you prefer that?

    I think the word you seek is "inefficient", not "lazy".
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  8. #138
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zojha View Post
    What if they were overhealing instead?

    They'd press just as many buttons as if they were DPSing, so you can't call them lazy anymore. Would you prefer that?

    I think the word you seek is "inefficient", not "lazy".
    In the example I gave I said they were standing around doing nothing, If they were overhealing then yes they would be inefficent instead of lazy.

    The amount of Healers I see that heal a tank then literally jump around the mobs is extremely high in expert roulette.
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  9. #139
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    AskaRay's Avatar
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    Aeon Rakshasa
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    Lich
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    Bard Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Zojha View Post
    What if they were overhealing instead?

    They'd press just as many buttons as if they were DPSing, so you can't call them lazy anymore. Would you prefer that?

    I think the word you seek is "inefficient", not "lazy".
    I hate overhealing so much..I'd rather they just stand there and cast Cure every ten seconds then healing someone at 99% health.
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  10. #140
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    Elazu's Avatar
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    Aveira Teleri
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    Odin
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    Archer Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Kosmos992k View Post
    Correction: it's the norm at end-game, not in normal content. Time for you to adjust your expectations. Please do not continue to spread the end-game meta to normal content.
    Pretty terrible attitude to have. Why MUST df groups be stuck in mediocrity and not get better?
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