The arrogance of some people

[Naruke]

I mean if you want a real answer from me, my answer is:

if it's a dungeon run or a DF run (aka not a raid or PF with a set goal etc).... if no one's dead and nothing is chewing my face I couldn't care LESS if the tank was DPS stance or if the healer stood there and took a nap. Dungeon run takes an hour? Fine, if we actually finish. I don't care.

It can care for who dont have much time for play the game. If I decided to do all Roulettes + some Craft (for example) but I have only 2-3 hours to play... and I lose 1 hour inside a single Roulette.. well its sad

[SonKevin]

if it's a dungeon run or a DF run (aka not a raid or PF with a set goal etc).... if no one's dead and nothing is chewing my face I couldn't care LESS if the tank was DPS stance or if the healer stood there and took a nap. Dungeon run takes an hour? Fine, if we actually finish. I don't care.

I'd like mine to finish in less than a half hour, tbh. However, that's really all up to how terrible the DPS is. If the DPS is terrible. It's going to go slow even if you have a tank in a DPS stance and a healer in Cleric Stance.

[AskaRay]

It can care for who dont have much time for play the game. If I decided to do all Roulettes + some Craft (for example) but I have only 2-3 hours to play... and I lose 1 hour inside a single Roulette.. well its sad

That is sad...that's too bad. I've had that problem before, too, where I only have a couple hours to play but these DPS just aren't pulling through and I -really- wished people would get their act together...
but guess what?
I'm not the only one playing. It's a group game, with a group of people who aren't just me. The game isn't "ME ME ME". If I wanted to completely control a situation I would play some more Animal Crossing or a Tales game or something.
Either way it's no reason to yell at a random person you aren't going to meet again.

If you want to guarantee you get everything done in as little time as possible, run with your friends.

[Ramzal]

Or maybe people could just let others play and enjoy the game their way? If someone is messing up by not healing when they are a healer, not dpsing quite well if they're a dps, or not holding aggro as a tank very well then speak up and give them a hand. If you feel like they could be healing as a tank/dpsing as a healer/healing as a dps(?) then keep that to your own groups of people or yourself if you are in the duty finder. People play games for fun, not to be complained at that whatever they're doing isn't enough. If you keep doing that to random people then they'll just unsub and congrats, you've got a dying game on your hands.

Just be civil or try to be.

[Mycow8me]

Camon... if your healer only wants to heal, thats fine cause they are a healer... pull more mobs then, give them a reason to only heal. Its a dungeon ffs...

[Elazu]

Or maybe people could just let others play and enjoy the game their way?

This has no place in group content. People are NOT entitled to screw over others just because they would prefer to play as terribly as possible.

[Fevelle]

This has no place in group content. People are NOT entitled to screw over others just because they would prefer to play as terribly as possible.

That's the point, a healer not dpsing is not screwing anyone. They're just not doing their maximum, like most regular players.

[AeraLure]

Sorry but that isn't what DF is about. You got is backwards. Get your friends together if you want to get Chit done. The world isn't blessed to have people like you in every duty you know. You're so special.

This. The game isn't really geared to teach people a full and proper rotation even by level 60. Also, you can be new to the game or job or level 60 and still meet the requirements to start doing EX. If I enter a DF, when I do, I am there for the party, whatever their skill or style, and I expect it to take as long as it takes. I wish there was more patience in the game, but play with FC or friends if you have to have it a certain way.

[SlyTribal]

I just want to know, in all honesty from the people defending Healers not using DPS in their downtime, would you still defend a tank who back tanked while using flash, not DPSing, or only using a single hate move even. Maybe a Melee standing in an AoE that would otherwise force him to move out of range, so he can max out the dps, knowing healers are only healing and would be able to cure through it. Would you defend a Bard who only wanted to play the support side and purely sang songs without shooting or the other way around?

[LaylaTsarra]

This. The game isn't really geared to teach people a full and proper rotation even by level 60. Also, you can be new to the game or job or level 60 and still meet the requirements to start doing EX. If I enter a DF, when I do, I am there for the party, whatever their skill or style, and I expect it to take as long as it takes. I wish there was more patience in the game, but play with FC or friends if you have to have it a certain way.

Oh I agree and if you listen to the banter on this forum you're sure to get the idea that DF was a terrible place to enter. I DF everyday as well as play with FC friends whenever I can which I enjoy quite a bit. The point is that for the most part duties go just fine. I find it an exception to run into a bad group and when that happens oddly enough we manage to survive.