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[Abauge_Goga]

Agree 100% with Aenarion's post.

This is not ffxi, it's ffxiv. I played ffxi for 5 years and loved and hated every second of it. I quit it for a reason. SE is not looking for ffxi players to move to this new game, they are looking at all mmo players to switch to this style, that is why it is different.

If you want this to be exactly as ffxi I think you will be dissapointed and you should probably quit now.

I hope people stop posting on this ridiculous topic and accept FFXIV for what it is: a NEW GAME.

[Seikninkuru]

It might feel like that, but I don't think anyone does. They want the same experience and feelings they had playing through FFXI, and the things that made it great to be included in this game.

Like mindless grinding in 1 spot? Like de-leveling? Like rigid class structure? No, no I am sorry to say this but FFXI was not that great of a game. Take off the rose colored glasses, look back at what you actually played.

As far as the OP goes, most people I've talked to who enjoyed XI, do NOT want this game to be the same, nor even similar. The things you mentioned were actually things they disliked. One even told me the other night, "I had a good time in XI, but there WAS SO MUCH I *#&$*(#*$ HATED!".

So no, go back to XI.

[weeble]

sure, you tell me what is new about it that isn't in some mmo?

[Arcell]

Why is it that you think people don't want a FF11-2 are automatically someone who want 14 to become a wow clone? I don't want a ffxi clone or a wow clone, I want ff14 to be its own game.

also, you can't claim that you don't want a ffxi clone while in the same paragraph saying that what this game needs is to become a ffxi clone :P

^this. FFXIV has always been developed and marketed as a more casual game than FFXI. They never tried to hide it. You should play a game that meets your expectations, not expect a game to become what you want it to be. The devs have a plan, let the game run its own course.

[syntaxlies]

i stopped reading after you wanted 6 man partys=ff11=no thank you

8 people adds flexibility to the group were in 11 people always looked for a strict party structure which made finding groups take longer.

[Luluna]

I adored FFXI but i quit last year after around 3 or more years playing. I duoed almost everything with my husband and we achieved a whole lot considering we where on our own, we got into a couple of endgame LS and stayed up until 6am twice a week for a whole year doing dynamis...i got the gear but i was tired out from it. I loved duoing and NM's where fun and challenging and even managed to do a couple we thought where too hard before we left. FFXIV is not FFXi but it could take some of the good points and leave the bad, the story the atmosphere and immersion was better for me, the elitism and the being owned by Linkshell got on my nerves, thats why i never bothered much. This game just needs a little more hardmode but not to the ridiculous...i dont like things so easy and prefer a challenge and i feel if given the right direction it could be done. I just want a challenge and good story and gamplay and to feel some achievement when i get something...agreed too much in here is a tad easy.

[Arcell]

I adored FFXI but i quit last year after around 3 or more years playing. I duoed almost everything with my husband and we achieved a whole lot considering we where on our own, we got into a couple of endgame LS and stayed up until 6am twice a week for a whole year doing dynamis...i got the gear but i was tired out from it. I loved duoing and NM's where fun and challenging and even managed to do a couple we thought where too hard before we left. FFXIV is not FFXi but it could take some of the good points and leave the bad, the story the atmosphere and immersion was better for me, the elitism and the being owned by Linkshell got on my nerves, thats why i never bothered much. This game just needs a little more hardmode but not to the ridiculous...i dont like things so easy and prefer a challenge and i feel if given the right direction it could be done. I just want a challenge and good story and gamplay and to feel some achievement when i get something...agreed too much in here is a tad easy.

Well to be fair, FFXIV has been getting harder as time has gone on.

*Reduction of party size from 15 to 8
*Battle changes made people actually have to learn their classes to perform well, not to mention actually having to manage MP and enmity
*Thaums can no longer solo most of the big NMs.

The game is still easy yes but again, it has been getting harder over time.

[Luluna]

Oh yeh i have seen great improvements since the Alpha that was one of the reason i left FFXI, ive been here a while now and have seen numerous changes, if i had to start from scratch i think i would very happy with what has changed. Casual is good for some and nobody should be struggling because they have no help or you need 15 people or whatever, but things are changing like you said and i am here to stay so hopefully things will get better.

[Orcishgrappler]

I am glad Yoshida has the sense to go in the opposite direction of FFXI in terms of absurd time sinks. You should either go back to it or let it go.

Note: Content in Final Fantasy XI lasted so long not because it was difficult or challenging, but because of the absurd drop rates, the time wasting game mechanics, etc. That only served to mount tension and enmity between players and Linkshells because of the absurd time it took to get anything worthwhile.

Games should not rely on time sinks to retain players. Each day it passes I am more convinced the worst enemy FFXIV has, second only to Square-enix himself, is FFXI players that are still stuck in an era of gaming that is no longer realistic or feasible.

Wow im so glad you said this. I 100% agree with this. Times have changed but many of the FF 11 fans are stuck in the past. Less time sinks more actual content is what we need. The 45 dungeon is a great example of something done well. If you beat batral you can get gear/items everytime! Wow is that not amazing!? (no, its not amazing it is just standard for todays MMO games). I honestly feel that If Yoshida listened to the FF 11 fans 100% this game would never make it in the long term. (I'm a big FF 11 fan and I know how resistant to change we can be ^^)

Now that that is out of the way, Yoshida get me my Bard,Puppetmaster,Samuri,Moghouse,Ah,Mailboxed, and Maat Fights!

[TMjolnir]

Seriously, I think everybody changes, and perhaps the generation that had time to spare when it wasn't doing their homework and was too pimply to get good sex, is now married, with children and awesome credit card debt. That doesn't mean there aren't others that have, or choose to steal, the time to devote to gaming. This whole idea that "things" have changed so much that a game that was practically adored two years ago has suddenly become untenable is ridiculous.

LOL Rutelor... But very true...right on man (thumbs up)