3.2 Sephiroth

[Anonymoose]

is it just me or does Sephirot look like Asura?

I think he looks like Gilgamesh wearing Kimahri Ronso cosplay, personally.

[Belhi]

I think he looks like Gilgamesh wearing Kimahri Ronso cosplay, personally.

Wow. I can now totally not get that out of my head when I look at him.

[Nalien]

I wonder how much character they'll give the Triad... Will they give us some details about the nature of Primals, or information about Allag/pre-Allag times, or will they just monologue like Odin and tell us next to nothing? Bad enough we've got a bunch of tight lipped dragons hanging around leaving us in the dark, would be nice to have some more "Primals ain't so bad" moments, like we had with Ramuh.

[CyrilLucifer]

Besides totally not working for Elidibus, Unukalhai's purpose really seems to be to give them some background and character.

[Kuwagami]

Besides totally not working for Elidibus, Unukalhai's purpose really seems to be to give them some background and character.

It's a pity though that we can't discuss much.

Ravana has so much more depth than Bismarck for example. We actually know his motives and he challenges us just for the sake of having a challenge. Unlike Bismarck who is just *Deep Blue sound* then *graaaaah* then dead. K.

[Nalien]

Bismarck I can perhaps understand, of all the Primals he seems the most... Primal... That was actually kind of refreshing. The rest though? OK, Garuda is insane. Titan and Ifrit weren't horrible, but there could definitely be more there. Leviathan was utterly horrible, literally summoned and swims off... Ramuh was much better, though suffers from the same "I clearly know more than I'm letting on, but I wont tell!" thing Middy has going... Shiva and Thordan I'd discredit due to their special nature, and Odin is as bad as Leviathan, although his combat dialog is far more interesting. Ravana really is probably the best we've gotten, better than Ramuh if only because I get no sense that Ravana is really aware of anything...

That said, all the Extreme versions are terrible... You'd think Titan would have something to say about Kobolds resorting to a sacrificial ritual to summon him, given how much he wants to protect them... Nope though, all the Extremes are essentially the same as Leviathan. Summoned, and we have to deal with them... How'd the tribes react to us defeating them the first time? How'd the Primals react to a rematch? There's nothing like that. Granted they basically just exist to give players an extra challenge, but it still strikes me as a huge missed opportunity...

Given the gravitas around the Warring Triad, I really hope they're not just another rehash of "Haha! I'm a Primal and must be stopped!". They've all got history, they've all got motivations, would be nice to see that touched upon more... With Sephirot we've got what? His tribe is seemingly long gone. He'd be waking up angry at an enemy that has been dead for Eras. There's a lot they can do with that, I hope they don't just go for the same "All humans are bad!" that most Primals have already done to death...

[Fenral]

"Humans are evil!"

"No we aren't!" /kill

/quest

There are a lot of things still keeping me in this game, but the philosophical debates are not one of them.

[myahele]

I have a feeling Sephirot won't have much of a personality other than "kill kill kill!" especially since he's been locked up longer than Bahamut and a Warring triad member

Any characterization will probably be dialogue or obscure references about him and his "tribe" Remnants of Sephiroth will be discovered here or there

[Nalien]

At the very least it would be nice to get more lore outside the game/encounter... Ifrit, Garuda, and Mog were all made far more interesting than they actually are by additional information provided. Ifrit less so, but the story with Garuda and the Lord of Snakes, coupled with Ixalis origin in Azys Lla, and the proximity of Vanu Vanu (who protected the Key to Azys Lla...) who ride snakes... That made the insane harpy more interesting to think about. Likewise, the Mog myth, discovery of Moghome and their relation to Thordan/Nidhogg, all make for a much more interesting story, even if their characterization is none existent/one note.

I have a feeling Sephirot won't have much of a personality other than "kill kill kill!" especially since he's been locked up longer than Bahamut and a Warring triad member

See, that makes me think he should have more personality... He is one of the Warring Triad, a trio that has always just been a plot device, this would be the perfect chance to make them something more.

As for Bahamut, well... He was royally pissed off before the Allag played Space Pokemans with him... Not only was he killed by them, he was summoned back by his beloved who then viewed him as stain on his memory (even if he isn't Bahamut, like Ysayle/Shiva I'd imagine he'd have thought he was the real deal at first). Add to that him and his fighting a losing war, and Dalamud effectively being a torture chamber... Yeah... I don't want to meet the man... dragon... thoughtform... whatever, who is sane after that...

On the other hand, we don't really know what circumstance the Triad fell to Allag... Given their apparent power, one wonders how they were "captured" or why they were put to use on something so menial as creating synthetic crystals... I'd hope for something a bit more true to VI, where the Allag didn't contain the Triad, they found the Triad "sleeping" and set to work harnessing their power without waking them up. It would explain why something like Crystal Tower was required; The Triad might have limitless power, but only a fraction of it was tapped into... Tapping into more would risk waking them up (#ThanksThordan), and then who knows what happens... If they're as strong as they're hyped up to be, one would wonder how we even have a hope of besting them... I would like to think this will be similar to the Ramuh encounter...

[Frederick22]

If they're as strong as they're hyped up to be, one would wonder how we even have a hope of besting them... I would like to think this will be similar to the Ramuh encounter...

They arent called Warring Triad for a reason. If we fight the 3 at the same time who knows what would they be capable off, but what if we fight them separately?

Maybe they must stay close each orther. Just saing.