Thread: 3.2 Sephiroth

Originally Posted by Frederick22

They arent called Warring Triad for a reason. If we fight the 3 at the same time who knows what would they be capable off, but what if we fight them separately?

Maybe they must stay close each orther. Just saing.

My assumption (and hope) is that we fight them each separate when they come out of being sealed, in a weak state. Then somewhere down the line the real deal fight goes off against them

I still maintain huge disappointment that they aren't the raid content. If they continue with the Coil plan of three separate raids, it'd be perfect, one Triad per raid, and c'mon, these guys are being built as something beyond anything we know is in existence so far, they absolutely deserve more than one-and-done Trial fights...

They can still do Trial fights with them, and later have them return in more substantial content with more to it, such as a raid (I'd swap that garbage can goblin ruined gag joke running version of Alexander for it any day).

Originally Posted by AstralKaos

They can still do Trial fights with them, and later have them return in more substantial content with more to it, such as a raid (I'd swap that garbage can goblin ruined gag joke running version of Alexander for it any day).

Alternatively, they could make better Trials. Rivenroad wasn't amazing, but it puts everything since to shame somehow... The closest we've gotten to anything other than a square/circle arena are the Gilgamesh fights... That's just... No...

That said, I think a T9 style Trial that changes as you progress would be perfect for the Triad, like it was for Thordan. We do Fiend in 3.2, then Demon come 3.3, and finally Goddess in 3.4. That leaves 3.5; Regula van Hydrus, just have him copy this and you've easily got one of the most amazing Trials in MMO history. I certainly hope that's where they're going with all this, given Thordan was a fairly faithful rendition of the Knights of the Round summon.

It seems as if the Triad were subdued by the Allagans if Unukalhai's to be believed:

Urianger
As the Warrior of Light's comrade, my participation is but to be expected. After all, the matter doth pertain to the very fate of this star. The eikons of eld... In the distant past, these mighty beings did offer fierce resistance to the Allagan Empire. However, they eventually fell to the men of Allag, who devised the means by which to capture them.
Unukalhai
And it did not end with capture, as you well know, for the Allagans also learned how to harness the eikons' power. They refined this knowledge at the Aetherochemical Research Facility on Azys Lla. And within the Centrifugal Crystal Engine, they sealed three of the beings─the Warring Triad.

As for the fighting the Triad ... the WoL is approaching the power of a god + we've got Hydaelyn's Blessing back again. As as powerful as a singly Triad member is the WoL will defeat them due to plot. There's also a possibility that what we'll be fighting is merely a weakened version of Sephirot and defeating him will make him sealed back up again.

Morningstar's right on this one. Melville's whale was definitely more than a whale.

Not gonna dig out any old college essays, but Moby Dick is, among many other things, a story about how one man's obsession with destroying "evil" (embodied as the eponymous white whale) ultimately only serves to get a bunch of good men and himself killed. There is actually a lot of buildup before the final confrontation establishing that the whale in question is genuinely bad news, but ultimately the cost payed to bring it down is ludicrously high (the whale dies, taking the ship and its crew with it, and only the narrator is spared).

If there's any novel out there that will forever ruin you for the oft-romanticized notions of "putting your life on the line," "victory at any cost" and "fighting on to the bitter end." Boy howdy. Ahab did kill his whale, and did pay the cost he was fully prepared to, but was it really a good idea?


This absolutely applies to the WoL as far as I'm concerned. The price we've payed for certain things has been stupidly, stupidly high and only the villains have the sense to call him/her on it. That's an issue. Not only because I want our allies to have more sense than they do, but also because having the villains point it out just makes everyone else less willing to admit that maybe the bad guys have a point.

Originally Posted by Zohar_Lahar

Due to the fact the story of this game in on rails, it's hard to see much point in thinking too much on it in terms of personal responsibility. I mean, not once did I ever have any choice to tell Alphinaud the Crystal Braves was a terrible idea.

It's not so much that we, the players, can't, but that nobody in our bottle of exposition fairies ever considers stuff like that. How many duplicitous Lalafellin businessmen do we need to get shafted by before we start questioning the honesty of people like Happy Genocide Priest, before they unmask?

This is in response to Cyril's comment about referncing past feats

• Level 60 SMN quest (Clear "Heavensward")
• Point where the group meets Y'mithra before retrieving Y'sholta form the lifestream (Get the SMN crystal)
• Tataru joining the ACN guild (join that same guild before her)
• Estinien's cameo in 2.4 and introduction 3.0 (Get the DRG crystal)
• Suito Carlito's cameo in Wanderer's Palace HM (Go as a SCH)
• Talking to Yayake in the Level 58 SCH quest (Get the BLM crystal)

These are mostly job based, but I can see them doing something similar for Trials and Raids. BTW was there any dialog changes in the BLM 50-60 quests if one had the WHM crystal or at least membership into the CNJ guild before hand?