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    At the very least it would be nice to get more lore outside the game/encounter... Ifrit, Garuda, and Mog were all made far more interesting than they actually are by additional information provided. Ifrit less so, but the story with Garuda and the Lord of Snakes, coupled with Ixalis origin in Azys Lla, and the proximity of Vanu Vanu (who protected the Key to Azys Lla...) who ride snakes... That made the insane harpy more interesting to think about. Likewise, the Mog myth, discovery of Moghome and their relation to Thordan/Nidhogg, all make for a much more interesting story, even if their characterization is none existent/one note.

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    I have a feeling Sephirot won't have much of a personality other than "kill kill kill!" especially since he's been locked up longer than Bahamut and a Warring triad member
    See, that makes me think he should have more personality... He is one of the Warring Triad, a trio that has always just been a plot device, this would be the perfect chance to make them something more.

    As for Bahamut, well... He was royally pissed off before the Allag played Space Pokemans with him... Not only was he killed by them, he was summoned back by his beloved who then viewed him as stain on his memory (even if he isn't Bahamut, like Ysayle/Shiva I'd imagine he'd have thought he was the real deal at first). Add to that him and his fighting a losing war, and Dalamud effectively being a torture chamber... Yeah... I don't want to meet the man... dragon... thoughtform... whatever, who is sane after that...

    On the other hand, we don't really know what circumstance the Triad fell to Allag... Given their apparent power, one wonders how they were "captured" or why they were put to use on something so menial as creating synthetic crystals... I'd hope for something a bit more true to VI, where the Allag didn't contain the Triad, they found the Triad "sleeping" and set to work harnessing their power without waking them up. It would explain why something like Crystal Tower was required; The Triad might have limitless power, but only a fraction of it was tapped into... Tapping into more would risk waking them up (#ThanksThordan), and then who knows what happens... If they're as strong as they're hyped up to be, one would wonder how we even have a hope of besting them... I would like to think this will be similar to the Ramuh encounter...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nalien View Post
    If they're as strong as they're hyped up to be, one would wonder how we even have a hope of besting them... I would like to think this will be similar to the Ramuh encounter...
    They arent called Warring Triad for a reason. If we fight the 3 at the same time who knows what would they be capable off, but what if we fight them separately?

    Maybe they must stay close each orther. Just saing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frederick22 View Post
    They arent called Warring Triad for a reason. If we fight the 3 at the same time who knows what would they be capable off, but what if we fight them separately?

    Maybe they must stay close each orther. Just saing.
    My assumption (and hope) is that we fight them each separate when they come out of being sealed, in a weak state. Then somewhere down the line the real deal fight goes off against them

    I still maintain huge disappointment that they aren't the raid content. If they continue with the Coil plan of three separate raids, it'd be perfect, one Triad per raid, and c'mon, these guys are being built as something beyond anything we know is in existence so far, they absolutely deserve more than one-and-done Trial fights...

    They can still do Trial fights with them, and later have them return in more substantial content with more to it, such as a raid (I'd swap that garbage can goblin ruined gag joke running version of Alexander for it any day).
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    Quote Originally Posted by AstralKaos View Post
    They can still do Trial fights with them, and later have them return in more substantial content with more to it, such as a raid (I'd swap that garbage can goblin ruined gag joke running version of Alexander for it any day).
    Alternatively, they could make better Trials. Rivenroad wasn't amazing, but it puts everything since to shame somehow... The closest we've gotten to anything other than a square/circle arena are the Gilgamesh fights... That's just... No...

    That said, I think a T9 style Trial that changes as you progress would be perfect for the Triad, like it was for Thordan. We do Fiend in 3.2, then Demon come 3.3, and finally Goddess in 3.4. That leaves 3.5; Regula van Hydrus, just have him copy this and you've easily got one of the most amazing Trials in MMO history. I certainly hope that's where they're going with all this, given Thordan was a fairly faithful rendition of the Knights of the Round summon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nalien View Post
    Alternatively, they could make better Trials. Rivenroad wasn't amazing, but it puts everything since to shame somehow... The closest we've gotten to anything other than a square/circle arena are the Gilgamesh fights... That's just... No...

    That said, I think a T9 style Trial that changes as you progress would be perfect for the Triad, like it was for Thordan. We do Fiend in 3.2, then Demon come 3.3, and finally Goddess in 3.4. That leaves 3.5; Regula van Hydrus, just have him copy this and you've easily got one of the most amazing Trials in MMO history. I certainly hope that's where they're going with all this, given Thordan was a fairly faithful rendition of the Knights of the Round summon.
    Yeah, there's that too, and seeing as the person behind Titan and Thordan is at least doing Sephirot, there's some hope.

    Still, I'm yearning for lore galore from these supposed catastrophic beings, beings that are apparently different to anything we know so far. I'm just worrie we'll walk in there, slap them about and that's it, followed by some quick lines about them before moving on.
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    It seems as if the Triad were subdued by the Allagans if Unukalhai's to be believed:

    Urianger
    As the Warrior of Light's comrade, my participation is but to be expected. After all, the matter doth pertain to the very fate of this star. The eikons of eld... In the distant past, these mighty beings did offer fierce resistance to the Allagan Empire. However, they eventually fell to the men of Allag, who devised the means by which to capture them.
    Unukalhai
    And it did not end with capture, as you well know, for the Allagans also learned how to harness the eikons' power. They refined this knowledge at the Aetherochemical Research Facility on Azys Lla. And within the Centrifugal Crystal Engine, they sealed three of the beings─the Warring Triad.
    As for the fighting the Triad ... the WoL is approaching the power of a god + we've got Hydaelyn's Blessing back again. As as powerful as a singly Triad member is the WoL will defeat them due to plot. There's also a possibility that what we'll be fighting is merely a weakened version of Sephirot and defeating him will make him sealed back up again.
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