Why do so many people FAIL at dps.

[Naliee]

As someone who only plays a dps job I'll be the first to admit that... sometimes I just dong give a **** about how much damage I deal after running the same content over and over and over and over and over and over again.

Clearly that must be what people think then they enter Thordin EX farm and only get him down to 76%.

I think what Nuinn meant here was roulettes, not farming groups such as Thor EX.

Running same dungeons over and over again can be tiring, specialy now that it is needed for relic. Farming groups is different, then I do expect you to give it 110%.

[Kaurie]

It's a videogame. Some people read up on things and maximize their output. Others just play how they see fit, don't read internet guides and don't worry about that kind of stuff. They don't really care about their numbers or being good.

and some people like to discuss their frustrations on the forum! \o/

Internet guides are really not necessary, I haven't read a guide for my main job and perform reasonably well. It's definitely not difficult to figure out how to perform more decent than the average.

[Anemone_Valesti]

Stuff...

Ashelia is putting ur A** on Blaaaaast...Dayuuum!
All I have to say is, Im glad I don't Run to the forums to vent, and claim being able to Maximize DPS in the process of ragging on other peoples DPS xD.

[Granyala]

Seriously, what is UP with dps these days. Why are they so lazy, why are they so *bad*? is it cause they use a controller? maybe they think its hello kitty island or Guild wars 2? I don't know!

Maybe they are alt specs? I certainly don't do optimal DPS with my BLM as I always struggle with the retarded Enochian timers.

[Kaiser-Ace]

Hey, I looked on that ranking website and I'm not listed >_> I'm Balmung's Resident King of Lulgoons, surely I'd be perfect for the "Average at best, Laughable at worst" category.

[Pinkie_Pie]

Ashelia is putting ur A** on Blaaaaast...Dayuuum!
All I have to say is, Im glad I don't Run to the forums to vent, and claim being able to Maximize DPS in the process of ragging on other peoples DPS xD.

No, she didn't, shes just pulling dps logs for a bad use of a statement when the logs don't show item level/deaths and rez sickness debuff for clears but keep on thinking she did if it makes you smile in the end I guess.

Maybe they are alt specs? I certainly don't do optimal DPS with my BLM as I always struggle with the retarded Enochian timers.

That's fine, at least your are using enochain, but i'm talking about dps that are *lazy* and refuse to use their skills given to them or misuse of them. Example, how would you feel if you were with another mage just spaming fire 3 and blizzard 3 or better yet, just spamming blizzard 3 cause he's an *ice* mage with no use of thunder or anything else.

[Ashelia_Ferron]

Hey, I looked on that ranking website and I'm not listed >_> I'm Balmung's Resident King of Lulgoons, surely I'd be perfect for the "Average at best, Laughable at worst" category.

FFLogs only lists those who actually upload their parses.

So if no one in your group does that, you won't find yourself.

[Ayuhra]

Honestly the concern over my DPS and lack thereof has caused me to abandon the endgame of FFXIV altogether. I mess around on alts sometimes and have finally figured out how to Parse myself on them so maybe I will dive back into Gale and soon.

For BLM the timers are hard for me to get used to. I have a NIN alt who plays pretty well and SMN seems cool but I know they get a metric crap ton of buttons later.

So, speaking as the terrible DPS of the sort the OP is talking about here are my issues.

1. No in game feedback. As a BLM I eat aggro so I don't think the threat meters are accurate. Especially since I am using Quelling Strikes a lot.
2. Lack of in game meters means nobody else can see my DPS. It's easy to get into a lazy mindset and I don't like it when I do that either it's just...so easy. Who'd know?
3. If anyone calls me out on low DPS someone else in the group will tell them to step off.
4. The DPS classes in this game are FACTUALLY much, much harder to master than they are in any other game, or at least in any other high profile MMO. Part of this is because encounters are balanced around mastery and not just competence. The Enrage Timers are unreal.
5. ...The other part of that is that the DPS classes have a stupifying number of buttons. Using myself as a metric, BLM would be comfortable without timers, NIN is pushing it, I doubt I could handle Dragoon. I have nerve damage in my hands that reduces my physical range of motion. That did not keep me from doing high numbers on Mythic Garrosh in Mists of Pandaria (pre ability purge) but it keeps me from doing high numbers here.
6. The last part of that is many jobs, if they misfire something (like my Enochian), they may suffer for as long as 30 seconds with low numbers and have difficulty regaining momentum at all. This game can, at times, be unforgiving of human error.
7. If you are coming in from another MMO the long global cooldown is a throw-off. I understand it was implemented to make rotations more forgiving but to me it is actually more tricky. It is easier to just forget what you are doing if you are waiting on the GCD compared to firing off abilities and having them go off constantly (this is why I like NIN, it's fast). Honestly since this is a server-dictated live state game having a shorter GCD might cause more classes to suffer lag like NIN does. I am not saying I want this changed, I am just saying it's hard getting used to if you play other games.

On top of all of this the leveling experience, while harder than in other games (especially World of Warcraft), is still doable without knowing exactly what you're doing. In fact it is impossible to know how well you will do in endgame due to so many classes being changed mechanically in Heavensward. I was good at BLM until Enochian became a thing and it is now at the very core of my rotation. Everything I do revolves around it.

[Ashelia_Ferron]

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A VIT tank huh?
There is 0 need to have anything over 17k HP outside of Defiance.

When 3.2 comes out and the changes to tank damage (Whatever that means) is implemented, then sure. Go full VIT. But otherwise you're not even maximizing DPS on your MAIN CLASS.

And dont' go here saying "A tank is supposed to tank and that's that" because we all know that with this game's meta, a Tank is far from your average "I just turtle and keep hate" tank.

AND, 400 DPS is still low for an MT WAR. If my static's PLD can maintain 600 DPS in SHIELD OATH (and in case it wasn't obvious, he is MT), then surely the "Damage dealing Tank, WAR" can do just as much. And no, you don't need pentamelds, full slaying is sufficient, with maybe ONE fending ring



"I was dead, GG, my parse is good for being dead".

Yeah, sure. Maybe your next thread should be about how all raid healers should git gud and keep you alive? You seem to be dying an awful lot.

[Pinkie_Pie]

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Ayuhra, that's and dandy, you try, you bring your best much as you. Great, wonderful, you are the type of dps that people would LOVE in groups but those are those are just, don't care! I have a co-worker who plays a dps and she says by quote "I just those push the buttons that make those other buttons that light up for me to push" unquote. I face palmed after she made that statement

A VIT tank huh?
There is 0 need to have anything over 17k HP outside of Defiance.

When 3.2 comes out and the changes to tank damage (Whatever that means) is implemented, then sure. Go full VIT. But otherwise you're not even maxi-.

Stop reading there, you done?

Oh nice, another one of those "YOU NEED TO NOT WEAR FULL VIT, YOUR BAD CAUSE I R ELITIST DERP" Wonderful, anything you have left to say i'm ignoring cause you are not really adding anything to this convo, you are a troll and trying to derail this thread.