Bowharp and the Death of RNG

[AceofRains]

I mean, really. Stop and think about what they are doing before you praise it and say im stupid. Now a warrior can only use one weapon, a black mage can only use one weapon, a dragoon can only use one weapon, a thief can only use one weapon.

To be honest, I wouldnt care if blm or drg could only use one weapon, hell id use those weapons with them anyways. But if WAR stems from MRD like most people seem to be speculating, then that downright is plain stupid. WAR is not an Axeman, it maybe his purely strongest weapon throughout the series, but a WAR is a weaponsmaster, thats why they are a Disciple of WAR. If WAR cannot use multiple weapons borrowing from all disciples of war, then i see no point in the class to be honest.

[Anonymoose]

To be honest, I wouldnt care if blm or drg could only use one weapon, hell id use those weapons with them anyways. But if WAR stems from MRD like most people seem to be speculating, then that downright is plain stupid. WAR is not an Axeman, it maybe his purely strongest weapon throughout the series, but a WAR is a weaponsmaster, thats why they are a Disciple of WAR. If WAR cannot use multiple weapons borrowing from all disciples of war, then i see no point in the class to be honest.

This is true - very true - Warrior is supposed to be a swiss army knife. It's too bad FFXI set the standard that WAR=AXE. Then again, people won't shut up about "WE WANT FFXI-2!" and "MAKE IT MORE LIKE FFXI!" so... I guess we get what we asked for.

Maybe this'll teach all those f***ers who, back in November, made such a stink about "We don't like freedom! We need structure! Defined roles! Unique jobs! Restricted gear!" to keep their twelvedamn mouth shut next time.

[User201109011315]

To be fair, in FFXI and every other MMO you played AS your job PERFORMING with a weapon, in FFXIV you play AS your weapon class and PERFORM a job. I'm not necessarily praising it quite yet, but that's just how it is. I'm sure there will still be a high degree of customization depending on which weapon classes you've leveled up. It might be unconventional, but I don't see why that means it has to lack potential.

Emphasis on "a" job. And that's why it sucks.

[Anonymoose]

Emphasis on "a" job. And that's why it sucks.

If anything, I'd expect them to expand it so that you'd be able to perform more than one job with a weapon instead of more than one weapon with a job. Same shit in the end, though - Just semantics.

[Corrderio]

Why the hell does everyone keep thinking Archer is going to be a Bard?

[Arcell]

This is true - very true - Warrior is supposed to be a swiss army knife. It's too bad FFXI set the standard that WAR=AXE. Then again, people won't shut up about "WE WANT FFXI-2!" and "MAKE IT MORE LIKE FFXI!" so... I guess we get what we asked for.

Maybe this'll teach all those f***ers who, back in November, made such a stink about "We don't like freedom! We need structure! Defined roles! Unique jobs! Restricted gear!" to keep their twelvedamn mouth shut next time.

I can't like this post enough. Back when people were bitching and moaning about lack of class definition ruining the game and the absolute 100% need for everything to be restricted, I tried to argue on the side of keeping the freedom. Freedom lost that one. Now that people are getting it, cue more bitching.

[User201109011315]

If anything, I'd expect them to expand it so that you'd be able to perform more than one job with a weapon instead of more than one weapon with a job. Same shit in the end, though - Just semantics.

Yes and you will wait 2 years for 5 new jobs to be released.

[Anonymoose]

Why the hell does everyone keep thinking Archer is going to be a Bard?

I'll sum the 50 pages of 3 threads up for you:
Look at this guy's bow. Okay, now I'll re-enact the progression for you. Pretend after every line I'm using a different one of those voices people use to imitate eachother.

Oh, my god. What's on his bow?!
That looks like a harp!
It's not a harp!
I'm so glad we're going to be able to play BARCHER!
F**K BARCHER!
I HATE YOSHI-P BECAUSE WE'RE GETTING BARCHER.
I, FOR ONE, LOVE THE IDEA THAT WE'RE GETTING BARCHER!
Guys, are we sure it's a bow-harp?
I CAN'T WAIT TO PLAY BARCHER.
I DIDN'T LEVEL ARCHER TO BUFF.
Hail! I am a Community rep and I can confirm that the bow transforms.
YAAAAAAAYYYYY
NUUUUUUUU
Transforms into wh-
BARCHERRRRRR!!!!

Empirical Evidence
It looks like a lyre (a type of harp). If you fold it up, it looks even MORE like a lyre. It could be a crossbow, but even the symbol carved into the bow and shape of the outer border are very akin to styles used for musical instruments. Particularly the flourish on the handle, you'd expect to see that on a violin.

Square-Enix supposedly released somewhere what jobs would be coming first - and ARC and BRD are the only two left over after you match up all the obvious ones. Combine this with the above? Barcher. Probably. (By probably, I mean maybe.)

It could still be a crossbow after transformation. But come on, what does it look like to you? Obviously it doesn't transform into a pez dispenser.

EDIT: Bonus fact - Archer turning into Ranger would be redundant. They're the same job. Combine this with what I said on the first page about Rangers not being "ranged attackers" but people who "range over an area" and ARC >> RNG sounds just as silly, if not sillier, than barcher.

[Corrderio]

Stuff

Okay I'm starting to see it now. I was hoping myself they'd add a class for Bard though.

[Sirscapesalot]

Could go either way, but the latter isn't new, fun to think about, or fun to discuss. And, IMO, they didn't reaaally manage with WHM, it, don't hit me now, looks pretty anticlimactic for a first look at the job. It's a CON base, so it could be attacking but if a WHM isn't healing, what's it good for?

Maybe that's how a barcher ... barches. I doubt the buffs would be the focus of the job, I assume arching would still be pretty big... since... if that's a bowharp it's still like 65% bow.

Again, just nice to have something new to talk about.


Scapes!? Did you jump servers?? lol

Yeah, I wanted a fresh start and decided to bounce servers. I cant /wave to ya anymore but I see you posting on here daily ^^