Bowharp and the Death of RNG

[Rinsui]

I TAKE THIS WHOLE THREAD BACK, RINSUI IS RIGHT. They do look a lot like swabs. Please join me in my new thread, Doctor Archer and the Death of WHM.

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[Physic]

its strings conneceted to a hole in the bottom and wrapped around the wood on the top. Strangely enough, the actual nocked arrow has no arrow head.

Starting to think its just a fancy bow, even if archer gets a bard job, making a new weapon for it is a bad idea, it would invalidate all re existing archer weapons, because they dont have a bow. and since i doubt they are going to make a whole bunch of bowharps from level 20-50, or make a job transition into a class that it cant play because of lack pf weapons. Its probably just a fancy bow with no harp utility at all.

not saying archer wont be a bard or that it will, but im pretty sure its just a non functional fancy weapon

[Anonymoose]

Starting to think its just a fancy bow, even if archer gets a bard job, making a new weapon for it is a bad idea, it would invalidate all re existing archer weapons, because they dont have a bow. and since i doubt they are going to make a whole bunch of bowharps from level 20-50, or make a job transition into a class that it cant play because of lack pf weapons. Its probably just a fancy bow with no harp utility at all.

I think this is the strongest evidence for the "Archer is Not Part Bard" side of this speculation. The evidence there speaks for itself, but just to play Devil's Advocate - what if Jobs, like Classes, are activated by switching to a weapon associated with the job and not the class? It would be the easiest for them to implement, based on the armory system. Perhaps one changes into the Job form BECAUSE they equip bowharp - just for argument's sake.

[Physic]

I think this is the strongest evidence for the "Archer is Not Part Bard" side of this speculation. The evidence there speaks for itself, but just to play Devil's Advocate - what if Jobs, like Classes, are activated by switching to a weapon associated with the job and not the class? It would be the easiest for them to implement, based on the armory system. Perhaps one changes into the Job form BECAUSE they equip bowharp - just for argument's sake.

this could in fact be the case, but that would have to make a lot of weapons, and it would mean almost all old gear is completely useless, except for some soloing.
from 20-50, lets say you get a weapon at least every 5 levels, thats 7 weapons per class, they would have no horizontal stats. so they would have to pump out 49 new weapons. No offense, but i dont think they have done that much work in new designs in the year since this game came out, i doubt they would have that ready in 4 - 6 months

[Anonymoose]

No offense, but i dont think they have done that much work in new designs in the year since this game came out, i doubt they would have that ready in 4 - 6 months

There's great points for and against, I just like discussion.

No offense, but at this pace, I don't think they're going to have that much ready in 4~6 months regardless of whether or not we're going to be seeing changing weapons, lol.

[Physic]

just occured to me how they could execute barcher without ruining the future of bards, by adding another hidden class like sentinel but for instruments. A future bard could use the same abilities, to even better effect. barcher would then be like the conjurer with sheild skills, and a limited selection of skills.

Of course doesnt solve the problem of archers who never wanted to be support, but the excution may not be super support.

Anyhow, if you think about it an archer with group buffs, would be fairly indespensible,

[Anonymoose]

just occured to me how they could execute barcher without ruining the future of bards, by adding another hidden class like sentinel but for instruments. A future bard could use the same abilities, to even better effect. barcher would then be like the conjurer with sheild skills, and a limited selection of skills.

Of course doesnt solve the problem of archers who never wanted to be support, but the excution may not be super support.

Anyhow, if you think about it an archer with group buffs, would be fairly indespensible,

Aye, I'm still waiting for another off-hand class. There's no way they made the system just so shields would work.

[Shift]

It's certainly strange, but the more I think about it, the more interested I am in seeing it. I think it would be fun to fire off a few arrows, then play a tune to buff the party dmg output, then fire off a few more arrows, then play a tune to debuff the monsters. I think something like this would actually encourage me to play a Bard as its something I've never really had an interest in before.

Honestly, this is the exact reason why I love Final Fantasy games. They think outside the norm. I mean really, would have thought of Gunblades before FF8 (I had never heard of them), but now everyone wants one.

[Ottovonawesome]

Weren't BRD's in FF11 upset over not being able to do any dmg? So why are they upset in FF14 about being able to shoot a bow? Impossible to statisfy much... Also this is a perfect path for ARC cuase RNG would be totally redundant.

[Shift]

Weren't BRD's in FF11 upset over not being able to do any dmg? So why are they upset in FF14 about being able to shoot a bow? Impossible to statisfy much... Also this is a perfect path for ARC cuase RNG would be totally redundant.

I agree with this. What could a Ranger bring to the table that an Archer couldn't? Possibly a pet, but wouldn't that be more like a Beastmaster anyways? I think a bow-wielding Bard sounds like an interesting twist for the job.