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    Why the hell does everyone keep thinking Archer is going to be a Bard?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Corrderio View Post
    Why the hell does everyone keep thinking Archer is going to be a Bard?
    I'll sum the 50 pages of 3 threads up for you:
    Look at this guy's bow. Okay, now I'll re-enact the progression for you. Pretend after every line I'm using a different one of those voices people use to imitate eachother.

    Oh, my god. What's on his bow?!
    That looks like a harp!
    It's not a harp!
    I'm so glad we're going to be able to play BARCHER!
    F**K BARCHER!
    I HATE YOSHI-P BECAUSE WE'RE GETTING BARCHER.
    I, FOR ONE, LOVE THE IDEA THAT WE'RE GETTING BARCHER!
    Guys, are we sure it's a bow-harp?
    I CAN'T WAIT TO PLAY BARCHER.
    I DIDN'T LEVEL ARCHER TO BUFF.
    Hail! I am a Community rep and I can confirm that the bow transforms.
    YAAAAAAAYYYYY
    NUUUUUUUU
    Transforms into wh-
    BARCHERRRRRR!!!!

    Empirical Evidence
    It looks like a lyre (a type of harp). If you fold it up, it looks even MORE like a lyre. It could be a crossbow, but even the symbol carved into the bow and shape of the outer border are very akin to styles used for musical instruments. Particularly the flourish on the handle, you'd expect to see that on a violin.

    Square-Enix supposedly released somewhere what jobs would be coming first - and ARC and BRD are the only two left over after you match up all the obvious ones. Combine this with the above? Barcher. Probably. (By probably, I mean maybe.)

    It could still be a crossbow after transformation. But come on, what does it look like to you? Obviously it doesn't transform into a pez dispenser.

    EDIT: Bonus fact - Archer turning into Ranger would be redundant. They're the same job. Combine this with what I said on the first page about Rangers not being "ranged attackers" but people who "range over an area" and ARC >> RNG sounds just as silly, if not sillier, than barcher.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anonymoose View Post
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    Okay I'm starting to see it now. I was hoping myself they'd add a class for Bard though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anonymoose View Post
    I'll sum the 50 pages of 3 threads up for you:
    Look at this guy's bow. Okay, now I'll re-enact the progression for you. Pretend after every line I'm using a different one of those voices people use to imitate eachother.

    Oh, my god. What's on his bow?!
    That looks like a harp!
    It's not a harp!
    I'm so glad we're going to be able to play BARCHER!
    F**K BARCHER!
    I HATE YOSHI-P BECAUSE WE'RE GETTING BARCHER.
    I, FOR ONE, LOVE THE IDEA THAT WE'RE GETTING BARCHER!
    Guys, are we sure it's a bow-harp?
    I CAN'T WAIT TO PLAY BARCHER.
    I DIDN'T LEVEL ARCHER TO BUFF.
    Hail! I am a Community rep and I can confirm that the bow transforms.
    YAAAAAAAYYYYY
    NUUUUUUUU
    Transforms into wh-
    BARCHERRRRRR!!!!

    Empirical Evidence
    It looks like a lyre (a type of harp). If you fold it up, it looks even MORE like a lyre. It could be a crossbow, but even the symbol carved into the bow and shape of the outer border are very akin to styles used for musical instruments. Particularly the flourish on the handle, you'd expect to see that on a violin.

    Square-Enix supposedly released somewhere what jobs would be coming first - and ARC and BRD are the only two left over after you match up all the obvious ones. Combine this with the above? Barcher. Probably. (By probably, I mean maybe.)

    It could still be a crossbow after transformation. But come on, what does it look like to you? Obviously it doesn't transform into a pez dispenser.

    EDIT: Bonus fact - Archer turning into Ranger would be redundant. They're the same job. Combine this with what I said on the first page about Rangers not being "ranged attackers" but people who "range over an area" and ARC >> RNG sounds just as silly, if not sillier, than barcher.

    ranger could be more along the lines of woodsman, with more debuffs, various arrows, traps etc. Ranger would probably have been a more natural specialisation for archer, but i think they needed to make a new support class, and if ranger was a control/dd they would have too many DDs I think this descion was made mostly from a lets make the roles we need in a party using the jobs we have. In all honesty while im not against a ministrel archer, They kind of destroying bard futures here, unless they are very very slick
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anonymoose View Post

    Square-Enix supposedly released somewhere what jobs would be coming first - and ARC and BRD are the only two left over after you match up all the obvious ones. Combine this with the above? Barcher. Probably. (By probably, I mean maybe.)

    EDIT: Bonus fact - Archer turning into Ranger would be redundant. They're the same job. Combine this with what I said on the first page about Rangers not being "ranged attackers" but people who "range over an area" and ARC >> RNG sounds just as silly, if not sillier, than barcher.
    First: link us where SE officialy released the first 7 jobs. A picture of it carved in stone would be nice.
    Second: What is it about pug going mnk lnc going drg and gla going pld isn't redundant.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CptnGamble View Post
    First: link us where SE officialy released the first 7 jobs. A picture of it carved in stone would be nice.
    Second: What is it about pug going mnk lnc going drg and gla going pld isn't redundant.
    It completely is. That's why I am anxious about the job system... It largely seems to be a waste.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CptnGamble View Post
    First: link us where SE officialy released the first 7 jobs. A picture of it carved in stone would be nice.
    Second: What is it about pug going mnk lnc going drg and gla going pld isn't redundant.
    Reinhart translated it here:


    Quote Originally Posted by Reinheart View Post
    Please thank Marc for posting this info, he typed up the info from the magazine that was release today in Japan.

    Original thread by Marc: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/14804
    (Give him the credit for posting the info for everyone)

    Translation is not 100% it's my own translation so don't take my word for it, if you don't think I'm correct look it up yourself on google translate and what not.
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    Translation in red, my notes in blue.
    As always, click on the little blue arrow to see the post.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anonymoose View Post
    EDIT: Bonus fact - Archer turning into Ranger would be redundant. They're the same job. Combine this with what I said on the first page about Rangers not being "ranged attackers" but people who "range over an area" and ARC >> RNG sounds just as silly, if not sillier, than barcher.

    That's incorrect, really. An archer is simply a bow-user. In most fantasy settings, and even the real world to an extent, a Ranger has much more of a survivalist and nature element to go with it.
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