Anima Weapons

[winsock]

The grind is not painful

^ the only difference between this opinion and the ppl who disagree with you is that this opinion is yours. Your opinion is no better or worse then anyone else commenting here. Its just hard to see that from atop a pedestal.

Personally, Im not a fan of RNG progression.
Grinding for hours and not being any closer to the end goal blows.
If you're to player part of the player base that enjoys this kind of content and want to voice your opinion about how much you enjoy it, that's fine.
I don't and ill voice that opinion.

[Zophar]

^ the only difference between this opinion and the ppl who disagree with you is that this opinion is yours. Your opinion is no better or worse then anyone else commenting here. Its just hard to see that from atop a pedestal.

Personally, Im not a fan of RNG progression.
Grinding for hours and not being any closer to the end goal blows.
If you're to player part of the player base that enjoys this kind of content and want to voice your opinion about how much you enjoy it, that's fine.
I don't and ill voice that opinion.

The grind is, however, 100% optional. This is not an opinion.

[winsock]

The grind is, however, 100% optional. This is not an opinion.

True. Not sure how that applies to the argument at all though. The entire game is optional. At what point are players allowed to give negative feedback or criticize the game in your opinion?

[TatoRazzino]

^ the only difference between this opinion and the ppl who disagree with you is that this opinion is yours. Your opinion is no better or worse then anyone else commenting here. Its just hard to see that from atop a pedestal.

Atma grind in 2.x: random fate drops in 12 different areas that required you to have your weapon equipped. The drop rate was very low.
Atma grind in 3.15: random fate drops in different areas. You don't have to be in the job you're doing the relic for, so you can level up alts while you do it. The drop rate is higher than 2.x atmas.

Dungeon grind in 2.x: you had to do one dungeon and five trials to start your relic, you had to grind 27 dungeons for Animus, and then grind 16 dungeons for Zodiac, which would drop some item at a low chance.
Dungeon grind in 3.15: 10 dungeons, from which 6 you can do undersized.

Light farm in 2.x: 2000 light points. Average light per minute was 2, with bonus. Required you to have a relic equipped.
Token farm in 3.15: you can grind stuff with alts. Maximum number of runs is less than 800.

Crafted items in 2.x: 16 HQ crafted items which required melded crafted gear and access to special books and desynth mats.
Crafted items in 3.15: 16 HQ crafted items which require specialists in evey job. Base mats are easier to gather by level 60 gatherers.

But it's just my opinion when I say the grind is not painful. I have 0 knowledge of this game and I haven't done the previous relic without nerfs (irony)

[Nyghtmarerobu]

But it's just my opinion when I say the grind is not painful. I have 0 knowledge of this game and I haven't done the previous relic without nerfs (irony)

Honestly, pre-nerf 2.0 relic was way worse than this stuff. Of course, I skipped the first quest.. 3 times *cough* for 3 differant relics *cough* (I'm sorry lol). I beleive people are making a moutain out of a mole-hill as far as difficulty. The only thing I have problems with, is the lack of actual interesting content. Many people have said this, and that, to me is the only thing missing from the quest chain. No Hydra, no Chimera, no other trials.