Bowharp and the Death of RNG

[Betelgeuzah]

a delayed patch.

Nothing was delayed -_-

[Anonymoose]

Nothing was delayed -_-

True, I retract that. We never did have an official plan - just the idea that they were aiming for august, optimistically.

[Betelgeuzah]

True, I retract that. We never did have an official plan - just the idea that they were aiming for august, optimistically.

We have had the End of September plan since August.

[Physic]

I don't think anyone who plays ARC actually wants to play a bard. Giving ARC the BRD job would be the biggest mistake they've made with this game since deciding to release it in September last year. It's not even a case of "you can't please everyone" here, it would be a case of "you haven't pleased anyone". The effect will be felt by non-ARCs too who want a cool BRD in their party but they can't get one because no one wants to play their ARC that way. People who liked BRD in XI won't be BRDs because they may not fancy ranking up a DD class to get it.

I think, that if they actually make this into a good class, it wont really play like bard in ffxi, but more like an archer with a lot more buff potential. Think raging strike, and hawkeye, but for every one in a cone. This while they sit back and prepare a insanely strong multishot, (having massive amounts of buffs placed on it) They could theoretically also do things like sleep monsters, etc. More of a ranged support class, with some decent DD elements.

If executed in some way like this, it could be pretty interesting, the main problem is

It aint really what most people wanted out of a bow class
It aint really wht most people wanted out of bard class.

In the long run this could be solved later on if there was other ranger specialisations, or a new class that also is a bard, but more song/buff heavy, but that is a lonnnnnnnnng way off. Most likely if they add secondary specialisations, it would be after releasing new classes and then jobs. fact is jobs, based on the last updates time, is anywhere from 4 to 6 months away so secondary jobs? really really far off.

In that time, archers wont have much options if they didnt want to support. and people who wanted to support may find barcher to be too focused on DD ( i mean no matter what specialized skills bard specificly gets, almost every single skill on archer is either about DD, or keeping itself safe, not too much support there) honestly barcher seems like a good idea, once you have hunter/ranger and bard/singer/musicperson already out. Then you get barcher with an interesting mix of playstyles, but for the number one job of archer? ehhhh


But you know, there is a reasonable possibility that archer wont become bard, and bard is something they have planned down the line, that they mentioned earlier.

[Zantetsuken]

If you don't want to play BRD, you can keep playing ARC - It's a pretty good DD last I checked.

Jobs are designed to modify classes via specialization and are made for party use. Classes are for soloing.

I think the bow-harp is a fantastic idea - A buffing job that can DD as well~

Not really sure what the issue is here...

[Physic]

We have had the End of September plan since August.

we had a by the end of summer plan long ago, summer ended today btw. so its honestly a delay, not the end of the world delay, but a delay none the less. Add to that he said they may end up pushing it to oct, in which case it is exactly a delay.

[Physic]

If you don't want to play BRD, then stay as ARC - It's a pretty good DD last I checked.

Jobs are designed to modify classes via specialization and are made for party use. Classes are for soloing.

I think the bow-harp is a fantastic idea, but if you are an ARC that doesn't, then don't play BRD...

Not really sure what the issue is here...

this would be a good idea, but truth is, you probably wont be a better DD without bard. Archer doesnt really need much cross class skills to do its DD job. So a bard will most likely have access to all the archer skills, and some specialized ones. The idea they said is that the roles will be better at their role, so basically while archers DD is top teir versus current jobs, whatever jobs are supposed to be DD, need to be better at DD than they were before, so archer will most likely not be hax, when drg get something like blood of the dragon and does 1.5x dmg for 20 seconds everytime it jumps. (purely fictional ability, but hey sounds cool to me)

[User201109011315]

we had a by the end of summer plan long ago, summer ended today btw. so its honestly a delay, not the end of the world delay, but a delay none the less. Add to that he said they may end up pushing it to oct, in which case it is exactly a delay.

I'm kind of glad we don't have stupid jobs yet (like promised) because hopefully we can complain about them enough they change it before we get them.

[Duuude007]

A ranger ranges over an area, as in travels and guards it.

this makes me want to /rangequit

[Physic]

I'm kind of glad we don't have stupid jobs yet (like promised) because hopefully we can complain about them enough they change it before we get them.

not sure they really promised jobs by end of summer, even though it may have seemed that way when they talked about it in the same time they mention end of summer plans. The end of summer plan deadline was very weird, because it talks about doing a plan for implementation, but then mentions completing the quests, and the armor. So how is it that they plan to have the gear and quests ready before they even have a plan for the jobs? idunno. Strictly speaking though, jobs werent really planned for end of summer. But a number of things that were, are in the next patch which is actually going to drop in fall.