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    Well the left side has same vit and str so yea, it would only be dps accessories. They are only pushing those numbers because dps gear. Take that away, and their numbers will still be better than the other tanks, but it's nowhere near as competitive with dps. Nothing to do with the job itself, it's just the result of stacking strength.
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    Quote Originally Posted by whiskeybravo View Post
    Well the left side has same vit and str so yea, it would only be dps accessories. They are only pushing those numbers because dps gear. Take that away, and their numbers will still be better than the other tanks, but it's nowhere near as competitive with dps. Nothing to do with the job itself, it's just the result of stacking strength.
    Which begs the question, why does a tank get away with dps gear in progressive content? The standard is to be a psuedo DPS who tanks fine, so you don't see many WAR without STR accessories in the first place.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greedalox View Post
    Which begs the question, why does a tank get away with dps gear in progressive content? The standard is to be a psuedo DPS who tanks fine, so you don't see many WAR without STR accessories in the first place.
    It's not progression comtent anymore, at least not for the people that pump out dps-like numbers. It's overgeared farm content. During progression tanks have been wearing melded vit/str, and there's quite a huge difference in str caps between i150 and i210 right side, so the gap between dps and tank damage was also bigger. This will also change in 3.2 with crafted right side only allowing one mainstat meld per piece, so unless SE nerfs the next raid so much that tanks can wear str pieces with only one vit meld from the get go, the difference will be even bigger by then.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrCookTM View Post
    It's not progression comtent anymore, at least not for the people that pump out dps-like numbers. It's overgeared farm content. During progression tanks have been wearing melded vit/str, and there's quite a huge difference in str caps between i150 and i210 right side, so the gap between dps and tank damage was also bigger. This will also change in 3.2 with crafted right side only allowing one mainstat meld per piece, so unless SE nerfs the next raid so much that tanks can wear str pieces with only one vit meld from the get go, the difference will be even bigger by then.
    Tanks were running STR accessories during progression too, I wasn't referring to farm content NOW in particular, just how Wars have been accessorizing themselves this expansion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrCookTM View Post
    It's not progression comtent anymore, at least not for the people that pump out dps-like numbers. It's overgeared farm content. During progression tanks have been wearing melded vit/str, and there's quite a huge difference in str caps between i150 and i210 right side, so the gap between dps and tank damage was also bigger. This will also change in 3.2 with crafted right side only allowing one mainstat meld per piece, so unless SE nerfs the next raid so much that tanks can wear str pieces with only one vit meld from the get go, the difference will be even bigger by then.
    ...which will make more people post about lack of DPS damage; think about the NIN putting on the DEX main stat meld but people still saying he suck even though he went from 1.2k to 1.5k...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greedalox View Post
    Which begs the question, why does a tank get away with dps gear in progressive content?
    Well, that's a different question entirely lol

    I think the simple answer is the devs underestimated the player's creativity. I want to say skill, but I don't think that's the right word as they obviously designed it with a certain skill level in mind, I just think the thought of "I can wear str gear to increase my dps" is more of a creative concept than an indication of skill level. Certainly a level of skill is required to be successful with str tanking, but such would be the case without str stacking as well (ie, mechanics still exist, nevermind how much harder dps checks would be without it).

    So once you create the concept, and prove it's successful, then like every other popular trend in society other people pick it up, try it out, some may make their own adjustments, and before too long it's the thing to do. The status quo, for lack of a better term.

    But that's just my opinion.

    Quote Originally Posted by MrCookTM View Post
    It's overgeared farm content.
    This has always kinda got to me, not you but this statement in general. Content drops 210 gear. Nobody is higher than 210. We aren't going back and running with 220 or 230 gear, how is it "overgearing" exactly?
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    Last edited by whiskeybravo; 12-11-2015 at 07:52 AM.