Strength Tanks

[Maero]

Have you tanked before? Just curious as if you would and also see the current tank gear you would know why some tanks use str gear.
If a player has proper use of cds it should be a non-issue.
Tanks are also now required to do so much dps for some content, so a pure or mostly vitality tank would more or less be carried by the group, lol
Myself i am not full str however

[Donjo]

At this juncture in the game, the only way to solve the problem is to rehaul the system.

1. Make accessories job-locked like gear.
2. Make healer and tank stances work like AST stances (once you enter combat, you can't switch).

I will bathe in the glorious healer and tank tears.

I agree that accessories should have been job locked from Day 1. However, it wouldn't have stopped Pentamelded Accessories... which have been stated as a primary reason that the devs are attempting to recalculate Tank Damage.

However, the stance thing is iffy. Locking stances mid fight will greatly limit fight design as Tank Swaps will no longer be as friendly to do. Tanks absolutely should be able to swap mid fight as it allows them to adapt to whether or not they are currently Tanking something. I believe that something along the lines of preventing a Tank from leaving their Tank Stance if they currently have the highest Enmity on a monster would better serve your ideals.

[Twilite]

Had a tank an hour ago in A2. Weapon 205, left side 210. Right side 210 full STR. He just couldn't survive the trash mobs despite both healers spamming cure 2 / eye for an eye regen, asylum and whatever they have, even after they had to resort using Tetra and bene side to side. Healers were i200/205. And they were really good.

STR jewels should only be the monopoly of good tanks, dare I say fabulous ?

The problem is, all tanks think they are awesome at their job even when most of times THEY ARE NOT.

No cooldowns obviously, and you didn't say what kind of tank it was. If a healer is going all out on a tank on trash mobs, the issue is really obvious and not having anything to do with STR or VIT gear(though they could also be undergeared but that isn't the case here).

[Leonus]

You know what the problem with this is? That Dps are the most unreliable players in the game. The absolute hardest part of any end-game encounter (savage or otherwise) is not the Tank busters, or the AoE mitigation, or even the boss mechanics. The hardest part is finding 4 Dps who actually know how to rotate their highest possible Dps while not standing in stupid. I've seen enough fail Dps squads to know that you cannot trust the Dps to sign their checks on their own.

I could, in all honesty say the same about tanks and healers in their own roles. Though, I don't trust any player unless I've played with you before. I expect everyone to fall flat on their face. Unless you are well known (in a good way) or I'm proven otherwise. (Or someone I trust vouches for the person). If they do prove me wrong, I am pleasently surprised.

Nature of the game I suppse at this point.

[Tanama]

Does this Strength Tank strategy work well from level 1 - 59 as long as you use your cooldowns well or is this only suited to level 60 setups?

[Calypsx]

Does this Strength Tank strategy work well from level 1 - 59 as long as you use your cooldowns well or is this only suited to level 60 setups?

It works at every level just fine.

[Reinha]

In my opinion balance is the best approach, i got all stats allocated in STR and use 3 VIT Acc and 2 DPS Acc. This way i got approx 19k hp and do decent dmg as a DRK.

I'm going to start my tanking career as half and half as well once I hit 60 on DRK. Although I think it might be better to put all points in VIT instead and swap in one more dps accessory. That way the secondary stats in gear are better because you have less parry (it's apparently useless). VIT points have worked fine for me so far when leveling, it's not like DRK has aggro problems lol.

As a healer I prefer tanks with at least a few VIT jewels if they are not overgeared. The extra HP buffer allows me to put dots on trash when it matters (i.e. when mobs are still at full health), leading to a much bigger dps increase than some STR on a tank. It also helps me to minimize overhealing, which in turn helps me dps more.

[Hierro]

Does this Strength Tank strategy work well from level 1 - 59 as long as you use your cooldowns well or is this only suited to level 60 setups?

It works depending on the class and level.

For example, warriors in defiance gain 25% more HP and 20% more healing. If you were to turn it off (pre-deliverance levels) or switch stance, then you could pop Thrill of Battle with Convalescence to gain 20% HP and healing. You would gain around the same effective HP with the same amount of healing while being in your DPS stance, as if nothing changed but suddenly you do more damage. Alternatively, you could just pop vengence while in your dps stance to achieve the same thing.

Point being, using those big cooldowns is the main idea of how a strength tank compensates for their lack of extra padding. If you don't have such cooldowns, then it's best to play it a little safe and stay in your tank stance with some added vit accessories.

[Marianno]

I can't help but agree with OP. I especially hate seeing any tank in full strength gear and not using tank stance. Lately, I've this a lot on PLD but on a lot of tanks in general. If I ask them to put on vit gear and they refuse then, I purposely let them die when in a dungeon when I play healer and see this. I know this is the wrong attitude because it wipes the party every time, but some people need to be taught a lesson in humility the hard way. Tired of this foolishness.

[Bashum]

I can't help but agree with OP. I especially hate seeing any tank in full strength gear and not using tank stance. Lately, I've this a lot on PLD but on a lot of tanks in general. If I ask them to put on vit gear and they refuse then, I purposely let them die when in a dungeon when I play healer and see this. I know this is the wrong attitude because it wipes the party every time, but some people need to be taught a lesson in humility the hard way. Tired of this foolishness.

You at least do the first 1 or 2 pulls to see if they're actually a good str tank, or a trash str tanks right?