Strength Tanks

[Marianno]

I can't help but agree with OP. I especially hate seeing any tank in full strength gear and not using tank stance. Lately, I've this a lot on PLD but on a lot of tanks in general. If I ask them to put on vit gear and they refuse then, I purposely let them die when in a dungeon when I play healer and see this. I know this is the wrong attitude because it wipes the party every time, but some people need to be taught a lesson in humility the hard way. Tired of this foolishness.

[Bashum]

I can't help but agree with OP. I especially hate seeing any tank in full strength gear and not using tank stance. Lately, I've this a lot on PLD but on a lot of tanks in general. If I ask them to put on vit gear and they refuse then, I purposely let them die when in a dungeon when I play healer and see this. I know this is the wrong attitude because it wipes the party every time, but some people need to be taught a lesson in humility the hard way. Tired of this foolishness.

You at least do the first 1 or 2 pulls to see if they're actually a good str tank, or a trash str tanks right?

[AlexiIvaniskavich]

I can't help but agree with OP. I especially hate seeing any tank in full strength gear and not using tank stance. Lately, I've this a lot on PLD but on a lot of tanks in general. If I ask them to put on vit gear and they refuse then, I purposely let them die when in a dungeon when I play healer and see this. I know this is the wrong attitude because it wipes the party every time, but some people need to be taught a lesson in humility the hard way. Tired of this foolishness.

Teaches others humility by forcing a tank to gear how he (the healer) wants it or else.....

I'd agree with you if the tank was wearing some sort of disciple of war armor vs. actual tank left side gear. I am also going to assume your tank knows what a cool down is, because a VIT tank that doesn't know this is also a bad tank.

Marianno - I would encourage you to learn how to heal through these bad tanks and work to improve your skill as a healer. If you can survive a bad situation, even excel in one, imagine what you will be able to do when you get a good tank.

[karateorangutang]

I can't help but agree with OP. I especially hate seeing any tank in full strength gear and not using tank stance. Lately, I've this a lot on PLD but on a lot of tanks in general. If I ask them to put on vit gear and they refuse then, I purposely let them die when in a dungeon when I play healer and see this. I know this is the wrong attitude because it wipes the party every time, but some people need to be taught a lesson in humility the hard way. Tired of this foolishness.

*Trolling skill increases by 0.3 points*

[Lan_Mantear]

I can't help but agree with OP. I especially hate seeing any tank in full strength gear and not using tank stance. Lately, I've this a lot on PLD but on a lot of tanks in general. If I ask them to put on vit gear and they refuse then, I purposely let them die when in a dungeon when I play healer and see this. I know this is the wrong attitude because it wipes the party every time, but some people need to be taught a lesson in humility the hard way. Tired of this foolishness.

Thank you for identifying yourself, St Marianno. I will make sure to abandon the party as soon as I see your name appear in the party list.

[fm_fenrir]

Lately, I've this a lot on PLD but on a lot of tanks in general.

I think a lot of PLDs are taking the "you do the worst tank DPS" thing as a challenge, so they're the most likely to be trying to prove that statement wrong. Personally, I've always stacked STR because I'm too lazy to build two separate sets of accessories for four jobs, and never really had a problem with being too soft to heal.

[SwordCoheir]

I think a lot of PLDs are taking the "you do the worst tank DPS" thing as a challenge, so they're the most likely to be trying to prove that statement wrong. Personally, I've always stacked STR because I'm too lazy to build two separate sets of accessories for four jobs, and never really had a problem with being too soft to heal.

Quite frankly when the entirety of enmity mechanics is based purely on attack power and damage, and PLD's not only have the lowest damage of any class even when optimized for DPS, but the lowest hate modifiers of any tank, yeah there are just some hurdles that can't be avoided. Now if they actually put some value into VIT outside of just meeting a tankbuster threshold yeah sure, but when the devs build the game around a DPS meta, people can cry and moan all they want about VIT it just doesn't serve any real application beyond an hp barrier.

[Marianno]

Yes I do the first 5 pulls to see if the tank can handle playing in str gear. The problem is that these tanks are not using cooldowns appropriately. Tanks not even using mitigating abilities when using str gear is annoying. I always give ~5 chances. After that if I see you can't keep the enemies stuck on you then there is a problem.

[Marianno]

Thank you for identifying yourself, St Marianno. I will make sure to abandon the party as soon as I see your name appear in the party list.

I honestly do not care if you do. Bottom line is, use the cooldowns if your going str based tanking. Do not step into a dungeon if you do not want to use cooldowns. That is my opinion, take from that what you will.

[AlexiIvaniskavich]

I honestly do not care if you do. Bottom line is, use the cooldowns if your going to be tanking. Do not step into a dungeon if you do not want to use cooldowns. That is my opinion, take from that what you will.

*edited that for you

VIT or STR - use a bloody cool down.