Also to note the new class like DK for example will now have it's very own Relic.
Debating if i should choose one of my 2 "advantages" to skip the first step and use on DK, lol
A preview by now would be nice.....


Also to note the new class like DK for example will now have it's very own Relic.
Debating if i should choose one of my 2 "advantages" to skip the first step and use on DK, lol
A preview by now would be nice.....
I've been debating that same question. Ever since they announced that a Zeta weapon was a free ticket to skip stage one of the new relic and could be exchanged for any other relic it's been on my mind as to whether or not I want to trade in my DRG spear for my Drk...
However, SE wasn't 100% clear on if the new relic weapon swap will include a trade in for the new jobs as well. They said that you could swap your Zeta for any other relic, but I wouldn't put it past them to pull a fast one on us and say something along the lines of "any other relic except the three new jobs (citing that those three jobs had no relic as an excuse)." It wouldn't be the first time they forced a grind on us. They also didn't specify if multiple Zetas = multiple skips of stage one. They may only allow for one swap to account for the title "Z," rather than the actual number of Zeta's the player has...
In all seriousness though, this is my extreme pessimism coming out. I'm seriously hoping that SE is on the level with this one and allows us to skip as many stage one Relics for as many Zetas as we have, and that the new jobs are included. The lore would seem to support it, because at this point I'm assuming that the "soul" of our Zeta is what is going to (lore logic) facilitate our skipping of stage 1.
At this point, I'm theorizing (and this could turn out to be total nonsense, but whatever) that the "soul" of our Zeta is going to somehow translate into the Anima of the new relic. I'm assuming that this will not be a direct transfer, mind you (such as from Nexus > Zodiac), because that would imply carrying over our custom stats. I have a feeling that the first stage of the relic won't have custom stats just yet (no proof. Just a feeling that SE will be repeating the same formula like they have been with pretty much everything else in HW. Ie: Artifact gear, Alexander Raid format, etc). Instead it will just be some sort of whishy washy lore logic that talks about how the souls are similar or resonate or whatever and boom: new weapon... either that or they're just gonna give it to us and everyone involved in the quest will have some sort of magical time lapse in which no one is the least bit suspicious that we somehow skipped whatever steps they wanted us to do.
Last edited by Februs; 12-10-2015 at 09:16 AM.


@ Februs, you make good points there. I never thought of it that way and it is possible that Machinist, Astro and DK will not be included in the first step skip.
As for the custom stats, i am feeling the same just really hope if thats the case that it is useful stats not more acc instead of say spell speed for blm as an example, i am already over the cap, lol
There is still debate over if we will have a base weapon to start with, either eso weapon or Zeta, etc.. I really do not know tbh
They've been oddly hush hush about it, considering it's coming out ... what? Next week? Can't remember. Soon, in any case.
As much as I can see SE deny Astro, Drk and Mch weapon swaps because they had no original Zetas... I don't think they'd be quite that mean. They could, mind you, but I think it would be a dick move. What I think is far more likely is that the first stage of the weapon will have an overall lower Ilvl than we want. I REALLY hope they give us a 210-215 weapon, but given that they are letting Zeta holders skip stage 1 and SE has admitted that the grind will be "easier," I can see them going as low as 205... mostly because they wouldn't want to give a random chunk of players an unfair advantage in Savage content when the progression groups actually had to earn it. The real question is what kind of stats will they give?
For Pld, for example, the two best swords you can currently get for stats are from Thor Ex or A4S, because they both offer secondary stats of Crit and Det instead of less useful weapon stats such as Acc or Parry (which is the number one useless stat on a Pld. They have a shield for crying out loud). In that regard, their weapon stat allocation is preferable in dmg even to War's and Drks. This makes sense, because Pld's need all the help they can get in dmg. Other weapons just don't stack up, especially if you like to Raid. Which is probably the reason that they put a Det/Crit split on the Thor Ex sword when it came out. Pld's are under-preforming in dmg. This compensates (albeit by a tiny amount).
I'm really hoping that they will see a similar stat breakdown in the Anima weapon. Even if the weapon turns out to be a lower ilvl than I want, I can live with it if the stats are well balanced for the jobs (at least until I get the Savage weapons... If I can ever find Dps who can do it, that is). If they're not, then I'd be better off just grinding it out in Thor Ex and living with that.

Best thing we can do at this point is, Hope for the best, and Expect the worst. I don't want to speculate to much because I have a feeling I'm just going to be let down.
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