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  1. #121
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    Charlotte Elise
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    Quote Originally Posted by GTANJ View Post
    Also, WoW DID have a tutorial for people who used a level boost. You weren't just dumped into the game with no idea what to do or how to do anything. There was a pretty extensive tutorial that taught people how to play their class. You should do more research into that before just spreading misinformation. Also, it's kind of a moot point, since FFXIV doesn't have level boosts, so who even cares?
    There was? When I boosted my Rogue I got no tutorial from what I can remember, I just started out with a few skills but within 10 or so hours they threw all the skills right back at me, no tutorial of any sort? They do have the videos teaching you the basics of each class though, series is named Crash Course I believe.
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  2. #122
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    Please stop with this WoW thing. This is not WoW. No one wants it to be.
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  3. #123
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fevelle View Post
    Please stop with this WoW thing. This is not WoW. No one wants it to be.
    Pretty much every mmo developer wants their game to be WoW
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  4. #124
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    Quote Originally Posted by Velthice View Post
    Pretty much every mmo developer wants their game to be WoW
    Well, I can't conceive the idea someone picks up a FF numbered title and want it to be even more like WoW.
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    Ilitsa Samariya
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fevelle View Post
    Well, I can't conceive the idea someone picks up a FF numbered title and want it to be even more like WoW.
    WoW, for better or worse is one of the most successful MMOs ever, of course the devs would want their project to be like that, no one makes a game/project and aims for mediocrity. While, yes this may not be WoW, the success it has earned is nothing to scoff at and is a great goal to strive for
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  6. #126
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    Sonja Djt-bidit
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fevelle View Post
    Well, I can't conceive the idea someone picks up a FF numbered title and want it to be even more like WoW.
    In the most critical ways for me FFXIV is better, but I wish we had the minion battles from WoW (including the wild minions). I get that people like the RTS, but it wasn't what I was looking for.
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  7. #127
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fevelle View Post
    Well, I can't conceive the idea someone picks up a FF numbered title and want it to be even more like WoW.
    ...even though this game is essentially a WoW clone? Because...it is? Same battle system, same controls, same tab target system, same...almost everything?

    I mean yeah it has a story (which I don't care) but a story alone doesn't make it a FF game if you ask me: I came into this game because it looked and played good, but not because it looked like a Final Fantasy. And that's a good thing: I don't need to like the franchise to like a game and FFXIV kind of proves that even people like me can enjoy this game, even if I'm...a hater I guess? But that's a big word.

    In the core itself, FFXIV is a WoW clone but does few things better than WoW (I guess storytelling? Can't tell though) and TONS worse than that game (I still can't do pretty much anything while in Queue and despite being an MMO, 99% of the activities require you to be alone....come on even SWTOR did story quests better than this!)
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    Last edited by Voltyblast; 12-04-2015 at 07:39 AM.

  8. #128
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    Celie Lothaire
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    Quote Originally Posted by Colorful View Post
    If you don't mind me asking, what are the equivalents of the Winged Guardian, Enchanted Fey Dragon, Swift Windsteed, Grinning Reaver, and the Warforged Nightmare?
    Grinning Reaver is a reskin of the bug mount from the Scepter of Azj'Aqir, Winged Guardian is saber mount with wings and a different face and bits of armor, Enchanted Fey Dragon is a reskinned drake (the same way the various drake mounts have been since the Netherwing mounts), the Swift Windsteed is a reskinned Talbuk, and the Warforrged Nightmare is simply a horse reskinned with different armor.

    Now they may not have an equivalent that is nothing more than recolor, but all of them are reskins of existing personal mounts available in the game...save the bat mount (and even that one has long been a flight path mount type).
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  9. #129
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    Quote Originally Posted by Voltyblast View Post
    ...even though this game is essentially a WoW clone? Because...it is? Same battle system, same controls, same tab target system, same...almost everything?

    In the core itself, FFXIV is a WoW clone but does few things better than WoW (I guess storytelling? Can't tell though) and TONS worse than that game (I still can't do pretty much anything while in Queue and despite being an MMO, 99% of the activities require you to be alone....come on even SWTOR did story quests better than this!)
    Agreed, don't get the WoW hate despite most RPGs being replicas of it in terms of many system attributes
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  10. #130
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    Katarh Mest
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    WoW established what is today considered the industry's "best practices." SE tried once to do something that didn't follow best practices, and the result was FFXIV 1.0.

    A dev team is allowed to pick the user interface that works the best. A dev is allowed to pick the battle system that works the best. A dev is allowed to take all these elements, and blend them into their chosen world/universe and with that, create something that is familiar at the same time it is new. XIV married the solid cutscene cinematics SE is known for with the industry standard controls for an MMO, and added their own twist with the Cross Hotbar to make it console friendly. The result is a game that plays like WoW, looks like Final Fantasy, and which marries the two seamlessly.

    The things that people complain about the most are areas where SE did *not* follow the industry standard best practices, e.g. Housing.
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