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  1. #1211
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    Xenon_S's Avatar
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    Xenon Shinkiro
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    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Ninja Lv 90
    new lv60 mnk (alt)
    i193, ravana weapon, VA chest, 2x210 rings, everything else 190
    hit 1200 on 3min dummy, no food/pots/party bonus/mercy stroke/fracture
    is this ok performance?
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  2. #1212
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    Butcherboy's Avatar
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    Commodore Butcherboy
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    Cactuar
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    Pugilist Lv 60
    Could go a bit higher even without food pot party buff. What's your rotation like? If you look at the front, we have 2 pretty good openers in there.
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  3. #1213
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    Greywolf Amakir
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    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Gunbreaker Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by CGMidlander View Post
    TS falls off before the next reapplication if you follow that order. (assuming 2.00s GCD. I have 2.06s at 526skspd w/ GL3, fwiw)
    Well, after a lot of tests I have seen the results and I have decided to change my opener:



    The only one change here is just the first TS is after DK and potion now. The potency of the opener is higher overall. (The difference is really really low, but there is a potency gain).
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  4. #1214
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    Commodore Butcherboy
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    Cactuar
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    Pugilist Lv 60
    Your new one is what I've been using all along, and it's what I'm comfortable the most. I wonder tho if I can sneak in FRACTURE at the last DM, I wonder if DK will be off or will I still have DK up for refresh. See before I started using SP after EF, I would do this, again same as yours but no SP after EF.

    Dm pb sp bfb sp ir dk POT TWIN ef TOD fc bs hf true steel dm st FRACTURE and I still have 2-3 seconds left on DK.
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  5. #1215
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    Vejj's Avatar
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    Vedel Vao
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    Lich
    Main Class
    Fisher Lv 90
    well, we often discussed about it, to improve the forbidden chakra skill right? we want to build it up faster but square said, thats probably to powerful.

    Hows the idea, if you can chose about slow and fast build ups? i mean, there could be an alternative way to build them faster up by press and hold the button, like channling. But we cant move as long the we hold down the button. Instead of this, square enix could increase the reactivation phase up to 1 sec or 1.5 sec to build it up while moving but slower.

    think i could deal with it it would be a acceptable compromise
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  6. #1216
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    Greywolf Amakir
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    Ragnarok
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    Gunbreaker Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Vejj View Post
    well, we often discussed about it, to improve the forbidden chakra skill right? we want to build it up faster but square said, thats probably to powerful.

    Hows the idea, if you can chose about slow and fast build ups? i mean, there could be an alternative way to build them faster up by press and hold the button, like channling. But we cant move as long the we hold down the button. Instead of this, square enix could increase the reactivation phase up to 1 sec or 1.5 sec to build it up while moving but slower.

    think i could deal with it it would be a acceptable compromise
    I would like something a bit more "random" just like old Thudercloud's BLM, I mean, something like "Demolish:Grants a 5% chance that after each damage over time tick inflicted by Demolish will add 1 stack of Meditation".
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    Last edited by Greywolfamakir; 11-30-2015 at 10:11 PM.

  7. #1217
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    Ossom Possom
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    Adamantoise
    Main Class
    Armorer Lv 53
    Quote Originally Posted by Greywolfamakir View Post
    Well, after a lot of tests I have seen the results and I have decided to change my opener:



    The only one change here is just the first TS is after DK and potion now. The potency of the opener is higher overall. (The difference is really really low, but there is a potency gain).
    Steel Peak is actually one of your strongest oGCDs (IIRC), after Elixer Drive based on PPS, so if B4B and IR are up for all of your oGCDs up to and following Shoulder tackle, you should look into switching Steel Peak and Howling Fists and moving Forbidden Chakra to the far back of the oGCD line up.
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  8. #1218
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    Greywolf Amakir
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    Ragnarok
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    Gunbreaker Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Ossom View Post
    Steel Peak is actually one of your strongest oGCDs (IIRC), after Elixer Drive based on PPS, so if B4B and IR are up for all of your oGCDs up to and following Shoulder tackle, you should look into switching Steel Peak and Howling Fists and moving Forbidden Chakra to the far back of the oGCD line up.
    Every oGCD skills should be used when Trick Attack / Battle Litany is up, I mean, oGCD skill order is not relevant if you use them asa Trick Attack is up (Trick Attack duration is perfect for 5 oGCD skills).
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  9. #1219
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    Height Error
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    Jenova
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    Samurai Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Greywolfamakir View Post
    Well, after a lot of tests I have seen the results and I have decided to change my opener:



    The only one change here is just the first TS is after DK and potion now. The potency of the opener is higher overall. (The difference is really really low, but there is a potency gain).
    My opener is similar, but slightly different. For most bosses I open with shoulder tackle to close the distance, but in cases where I don't this is how I would order my oGCDs instead. The standard oGCDs are used in order of PPS (Potency/Cooldown)
    Forbidden Chakra last because Forbidden isn't on a standard CD, so there's no PPS loss in holding it, unlike normal oGCD skills.

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  10. #1220
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    Commodore Butcherboy
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    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Pugilist Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Greywolfamakir View Post
    I would like something a bit more "random" just like old Thudercloud's BLM, I mean, something like "Demolish:Grants a 5% chance that after each damage over time tick inflicted by Demolish will add 1 stack of Meditation".
    Or DM has a multiplier. A chance to doing 3x the initial 70 potency. I was thinking of this last night and the animation you do 3 kicks so each kick is 70 POT and up 3 if it happens.
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