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  1. #1201
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    Very nice at your ilvl 204 u were able to hit 1400+ on that, the video that I was showing for comparison sake was ilvl 198 and able to hit that numbers as well . Another one that I saw today ilvl 202 was able to hit 1400 as well. What I'm trying to get at is that either opener I use will give me same results, I'm not trying to dish or put anyone on the spot as far there and your accomplish goes, so dint get mad.
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    Now mind you that this monk use food and POT at ilvl 198 also got the same numbers as you did. And then there's the spike dmg we also have to look at, again that also varies in crit range, he spike at 1.8k which I also have gotten when I was only at ilvl 196. I had a crit range of 27% , I don't have the data to back it up so you can either take my word for it or not.
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  3. #1203
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    But at ilvl 198 and 202 getting the same numbers as you do at ilvl 204, these a big difference in numbers as far as which rotation yields better results. Again I'm not trying to start anything just a friendly debate that's all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Butcherboy View Post
    But at ilvl 198 and 202 getting the same numbers as you do at ilvl 204, these a big difference in numbers as far as which rotation yields better results. Again I'm not trying to start anything just a friendly debate that's all.

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    I was getting 1400 as well at 202. 198 I want to say I was getting 1370s+ on good RNG crits, but again Im not using food/party buff or pots. I remember doing a few sessions and a friend joined me and my dps spiked up by 30-40 from the str party buff alone, so party buff is pretty good chunk of extra dps for sure.
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  5. #1205
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    So this is pretty good then, then that means that the 3.0 rotation still works as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Butcherboy View Post
    So this is pretty good then, then that means that the 3.0 rotation still works as well.
    oh Ive been just using lilyth's opener. Which I guess is kind of like an advanced 2.0 opener. No idea how the old 3.0 is doing.
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  7. #1207
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    So far I've enjoyed the 3.0 opener and since there's no different I'll just stick to it. I guess at this point we can both agree to either do 3.0 or Ossoms opener and you won't go wrong. Thank you for a nice debate
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  8. #1208
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    Just an FYI. Spike damage is worthless, If you want even higher spike damage. Start With Snap > IR > Snap > B4B > Demo > Forbidden Chakra > Tornado Kick, or hell, just do Forbidden Chakra as your opening move. Your spike damage will be crazy, so while using end of the run/dummy parses are good. Noting that ones spike damage is higher, atleast for Monk does not say much. Unless you do it in phases.

    Such as : @10 Seconds I was at XYZ, @ 30 Seconds I was at ABC @ 1 Minute I was at @ 123. Even then it means little because spike damage just says, I was able to move all my damage up to the beginning of the fight. Which isn't what Monk was designed for.
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  9. #1209
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    I know that we're play more for the sustain than a spike . But to me in my opinion anything inside a 1 min gcd it's still good to get a good number in burst. But in comparison of your opener and lillyth vs 3.0 opener getting the same results but higher burst due to the fact that I pop CD early tho, I think I'll just settle for the 3.0, since the end result are the same. I guess I'm just more comfortable with the 3.0 opener including a lot of monks here. This why sometimes I call BS on 3 minutes parse sometimes.
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  10. #1210
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    I sometimes wish TK is on a process system similar to bloodletter and we get a free TK lol
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