Current state of MCH?

[Archaell]

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I don't want to say it aloud, but there are MCHs and BRDs who play without GB and WM either casualy or as matter of protest... unless you care about your dps, you might consider it an option.

The issue is that bards have the same, maybe even worse, restriction when it comes to movement and one job can't be changed without the other.

Personally I would welcome if MCH (and BRD) had damaged scaled up, but I would keep GB. You still have to stop quite a lot if you want to focus on your skills, so it isn't hard to get used to it. Also rapid fire and when we get a proc allow us to shoot while moving.

[Eudyptes]

I don't want to say it aloud, but there are MCHs and BRDs who play without GB and WM either casualy or as matter of protest... unless you care about your dps, you might consider it an option.

It crossed my mind for a second, but honestly I wouldn't feel comfortable not playing to the best of my abilities.

The issue is that bards have the same, maybe even worse, restriction when it comes to movement and one job can't be changed without the other.

Well, there's no reason they couldn't change brd too. I mean, brd did go years w/o having WM.

Personally I would welcome if MCH (and BRD) had damaged scaled up, but I would keep GB. You still have to stop quite a lot if you want to focus on your skills, so it isn't hard to get used to it. Also rapid fire and when we get a proc allow us to shoot while moving.

I would want GB/WM removed completely. I just think tacking on the casts is absurd. If I wanted to play a class that casts spells and can't AA I would just play my level 60 smn or level up my blm which was already 51 before I started mch. As for playing with GB, being less mobile is annoying (I was moving and casting before for various reasons without skipping a beat on my dps), but not the only issue I have with it. Another, or rather the biggest, issue I have with it is how wonky it feels to me. Having such a proc dependant class (and having those procs be instant) combined with the cast times makes it surprisingly not fluid. It just feels very unnatural to me. I actually wonder if brd would be more fun to mw simply for the fact that it sounds like it is more straight casting. Though really it's the pre-52 non-casting that I want.

I don't know, it's just not for me I guess.

[RiceisNice]

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A traditional "physical ranged" job would be really nice. They slapped WM/GB on both jobs which pretty much threw that out of the window. Every range is practically a (faux) caster now in concept.

combined with the cast times makes it surprisingly not fluid. It just feels very unnatural to me. I actually wonder if brd would be more fun to mw simply for the fact that it sounds like it is more straight casting. Though really it's the pre-52 non-casting that I want.

I don't know, it's just not for me I guess.

Both jobs unfortunately have procs on skills that you need to play re-actively to. BRD has less reactive procs, but they still have a cooldown reset on an oGCD that can't be used during cast times, as well as a skill that has a cast time that isn't on the GCD. You're inevitably going to waste some GCD timers.