Astro needs a Nerf in PVP

[Zeonx]

Sorry but this is the truth, a full team couldn't kill 2 astro's while they held a node and curing themselves the whole time.

My dragoon could barely hurt them it was like hitting a brick wall even the team agreed that this job needs a serious nerf in pvp.

I bet if there were 3 Astro's at a node nobody could get anything hell a full party of astro's PVP would be dead.

Way over powered sure in normal game the boost was needed but for that to carry over to pvp its bad.

I wasn't going to say anything but this happening for the 3rd time in a row that I have done this, I can hurt whm, blm and summoner just fine but astro is like hitting a brick wall.

seriously fix that they aren't tanks.

[Houston009]

I'm not saying AST isn't strong. But your team's inability to kill those ASTs is not due to AST being "OP". That is simply lack of coordination and/or burst. 6ppl(I'm assuming you had 2 healers), should be able to burst anyone in seconds, especially at lvl 60.

And in PvP, Healers are tanks, Tanks are dps, and Dps are dps.

[Zeonx]

I'm not saying AST isn't strong. But your team's inability to kill those ASTs is not due to AST being "OP". That is simply lack of coordination and/or burst. 6ppl(I'm assuming you had 2 healers), should be able to burst anyone in seconds, especially at lvl 60.

And in PvP, Healers are tanks, Tanks are dps, and Dps are dps.

Really cause 3 people were beating on one astro and even one LB put him at 10% health did not kill him and he healed his hp back to 100% and ran away like nothing happened.

While the other 3 were beating on the second astro it was just 2 astros defending a node it wouldn't of made a difference if the whole team was hitting 1 the person was barely taking any damage.

sure we silenced and stunned but that didn't help one bit.

You'll see its just catching on and everyone will come astro wont need tanks or dps just a astro party they cannot lose.

[Houston009]

I don't know what to tell you besides the obvious. Its easily possible in that situation to kill those two ASTs with your party.

[Zeonx]

I don't know what to tell you besides the obvious. Its easily possible in that situation to kill those two ASTs with your party.

Telling you right now I was barely scratching them on dragoon doing and even ninja on our team was damaging it and said after our team lost that AST is OP

the whole group agreed it shouldn't of went down that way, I know what you mean we should of been able to kill them but we couldn't.

like I said if it catches on pvp will become a joke guess you had to be there to see it.

[Iagainsti]

Really cause 3 people were beating on one astro and even one LB put him at 10% health did not kill him and he healed his hp back to 100% and ran away like nothing happened.

While the other 3 were beating on the second astro it was just 2 astros defending a node it wouldn't of made a difference if the whole team was hitting 1 the person was barely taking any damage.

sure we silenced and stunned but that didn't help one bit.

You'll see its just catching on and everyone will come astro wont need tanks or dps just a astro party they cannot lose.

Mind Blown>>>> I'm sorry, I know Astro's are tough without that high of a skill ceiling, but if you guys did drop that much damage and still couldn't down them, you need to learn proper "Crowd Control" (CC) combos. you definitely did not utilize your stuns/silences/ buff strippers properly.

This is not a "Git Gud" post; I'm saying you just need better coordination.

[xxczx]

As Houston said, coordination is the key to killing healers (especially AST). Was your DPS sprinting to hit every single GCD? How good was the burst? Was the tank keeping the other AST busy? Burn ASTs long cooldowns (Lightspeed, Celestial Opp) and wait til they use Essential Dignity and get that burst going again.

[Risvertasashi]

Can we buff WHM up to SCH/AST levels for PvP though? >.>

[xxczx]

Can we buff WHM up to SCH/AST levels for PvP though? >.>

That's like saying can we buff BLM to SMN level. WHM is completely fine.

[Iagainsti]

Can we buff WHM up to SCH/AST levels for PvP though? >.>

Currently, WHM and SCH have a High skill ceiling, as in the better you are the more you can get out of it. AST, like the current SMN, have low skill ceilings as in they can easily be played very well without needing that much play experience. So no, those classes do not need a buff; players just need to learn through multiple matches(experience) how to deal with those classes.