Astro needs a Nerf in PVP

[Houston009]

I'm not saying AST isn't strong. But your team's inability to kill those ASTs is not due to AST being "OP". That is simply lack of coordination and/or burst. 6ppl(I'm assuming you had 2 healers), should be able to burst anyone in seconds, especially at lvl 60.

And in PvP, Healers are tanks, Tanks are dps, and Dps are dps.

[Zeonx]

I'm not saying AST isn't strong. But your team's inability to kill those ASTs is not due to AST being "OP". That is simply lack of coordination and/or burst. 6ppl(I'm assuming you had 2 healers), should be able to burst anyone in seconds, especially at lvl 60.

And in PvP, Healers are tanks, Tanks are dps, and Dps are dps.

Really cause 3 people were beating on one astro and even one LB put him at 10% health did not kill him and he healed his hp back to 100% and ran away like nothing happened.

While the other 3 were beating on the second astro it was just 2 astros defending a node it wouldn't of made a difference if the whole team was hitting 1 the person was barely taking any damage.

sure we silenced and stunned but that didn't help one bit.

You'll see its just catching on and everyone will come astro wont need tanks or dps just a astro party they cannot lose.

[Iagainsti]

Really cause 3 people were beating on one astro and even one LB put him at 10% health did not kill him and he healed his hp back to 100% and ran away like nothing happened.

While the other 3 were beating on the second astro it was just 2 astros defending a node it wouldn't of made a difference if the whole team was hitting 1 the person was barely taking any damage.

sure we silenced and stunned but that didn't help one bit.

You'll see its just catching on and everyone will come astro wont need tanks or dps just a astro party they cannot lose.

Mind Blown>>>> I'm sorry, I know Astro's are tough without that high of a skill ceiling, but if you guys did drop that much damage and still couldn't down them, you need to learn proper "Crowd Control" (CC) combos. you definitely did not utilize your stuns/silences/ buff strippers properly.

This is not a "Git Gud" post; I'm saying you just need better coordination.

[Kinseykinz]

I'm not saying AST isn't strong. But your team's inability to kill those ASTs is not due to AST being "OP". That is simply lack of coordination and/or burst. 6ppl(I'm assuming you had 2 healers), should be able to burst anyone in seconds, especially at lvl 60.

And in PvP, Healers are tanks, Tanks are dps, and Dps are dps.

LOL... so while there are other roles in PVP people are crying 'OP' over atm that I don't think actually are. AST is, most assuredly, OP in PvP....it is GODMODE.

Here's part of why it's OP:

1. It can survive, without using a pvp skill, all LBs in the field
2. It can chain-shield itself so it cannot be interrupted.
3. Lightspeed= casting on the run....and potent casts at that.
4. It can live without using it's pvp skills.
5. It's pve extentions can extend pvp skills as well
6. It doesn't tie it's survival (unless uber focused/focused by a team of skilled players) to CD's.
7. It can be focused, and still heal others... and can heal people indirectly...and keep everyone up
8. Even it's 'escape' skills are (or can be made) easily instant. Sure, there stun is only 2 seconds, but that's a LONG ass time in pvp. AST still has swiftcast, Lightspeed is effectively so fast you can cast ON THE RUN. And they still have access to the Healer PvP skills. Also, their version of assize (pvp skill) is amazing....it's a copycat skill off WHM, and yet, it (in pvp) is superior to the whm version...as MP is simply not an issue in PvP typically.


The other 2 healers are powerful, and can last awhile/be hard to take out...but they can't turret, kite, avoid interrupt etc like an AST can...and the other 2 healers, rely on proper use of both there PvE and PvP cd's to survive an onslaught.

To be clear, I play healer in PvP...I use to play whm/sch ...now I only do AST...I can survive 4 melee lb's chained on me. THAT IS OP.

Sure, I can't solo down anyone easily either...but that's not my real role in PvP.

An average player on AST, in Noct sect, who only used the PvE skills while in battle, would be able to survive easily...the same could not be said on almost any other role averagely played in pvp.


And when you consider, they took away 'Cleric Stance' from healers in pvp several patches ago because it made them 'too OP', yeah...that was childs play compared to AST's power. Healers swapping to cleric's stance in pvp at least held some risk for the team/healer who attempted dping....AST has very little risk, and big rewards.

[Aomine1992]

Haha I love being Astro in pvp...

Me and a tank were at a tower and 5 dps ran str8 for me the sad part is they didn't kill me at all and wasted their time while my team grabbed the towers and killed them...but the real nerf is for SMN lol I only died to a SMN why you so op SMN senpai XD

[Dimitrii]

but the real nerf is for SMN lol I only died to a SMN why you so op SMN senpai XD

I honestly can't tell if you're just being sarcastic with this lol.

[Houston009]

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I'm unsure as to why you are quoting me. Are you agreeing or disagreeing?

Also, grats on attuning 4 melee lbs.

EDIT: Purify is a PvP skill and an AST cannot survive a stun lock + proper burst without Purify or the help of their teammates. So a few of those points are invalid. Another thing, everyone can survive an LB without using PvP skills.
Again I'm not saying they are not strong but some of the situations people are complaining about ast surviving (against mediocre players) whm/sch were doing already. Only difference now is that multiple players between good - mediocre that could down a whm/sch can't down an ast.