Astro needs a Nerf in PVP

[TheWaywardWind]

I love that, for ages, SCH was the uncontested ruler of PvP healing and barely anything was said about ridiculous it was to kill a scholar.
Now Astro ascends (hurr get it) to a strong spot and everyone stamps their feet and deems it impossible to kill them.

Here's an idea: CC.
Stun them. Sleep them. Silence them. There are a billion tools for crushing an Astro, especially in large groups.

Honestly, a sleep + raw destruction combo is usually more than enough to kill them anyway. And if your other complaint is that it's hard to kill them in smaller groups: It's SUPPOSED to be. They're HEALERS. They're supposed to tank and bait you.

[Risvertasashi]

Currently, WHM and SCH have a High skill ceiling, as in the better you are the more you can get out of it. AST, like the current SMN, have low skill ceilings as in they can easily be played very well without needing that much play experience. So no, those classes do not need a buff; players just need to learn through multiple matches(experience) how to deal with those classes.

Have to disagree here. No matter how skilled the player, WHM will always have a high focus on casting and thus be most susceptible to CC and even regular attack interrupts. If anything the job depends much more on the party than the WHM themself.

[Blitzace]

Problem with people now a day is quite simple, they want their job to shine at every single thing. Not gonna happen.

[Houston009]

Have to disagree here. No matter how skilled the player, WHM will always have a high focus on casting and thus be most susceptible to CC and even regular attack interrupts. If anything the job depends much more on the party than the WHM themself.

WHM is fine, yes it has a High skill ceiling. And both SCH/AST depend on their party aswell.

[Risvertasashi]

WHM is fine, yes it has a High skill ceiling. And both SCH/AST depend on their party aswell.

not nearly to the same extent. AST is probably strongest but even SCH has a strong advantage over WHM.

[Stormrider]

I love that, for ages, SCH was the uncontested ruler of PvP healing and barely anything was said about ridiculous it was to kill a scholar.
Now Astro ascends (hurr get it) to a strong spot and everyone stamps their feet and deems it impossible to kill them.

Here's an idea: CC.
Stun them. Sleep them. Silence them. There are a billion tools for crushing an Astro, especially in large groups.

Honestly, a sleep + raw destruction combo is usually more than enough to kill them anyway. And if your other complaint is that it's hard to kill them in smaller groups: It's SUPPOSED to be. They're HEALERS. They're supposed to tank and bait you.

Stupid Stun astro gets in comparison to schs. It is annoying as hell and seems to never get resisted. Not that resists in this game work properly anyways.

And to the op what is the cap rotation for your Dragoon. Maybe some other dragoons will pop on here but I have been hit for 5k plus 4k and limit break. Sorry no healer can dodge 18k worth of damage in less then 30 seconds unless ast has some I win button over schs and whms. Not to mention a warrior can get 6k plus 6k plus 2k. This is just from personal experience there may be even better dps rotations.

[CeveArthu]

Not that resists in this game work properly anyways.

Uh, it works perfectly fine, you just need to realise that there are 48 other people that might also be ccing that target and making him resistant when its needed

which incidentally is also a large reason why astros are so resilient in frontlines

[Beckett]

Really cause 3 people were beating on one astro and even one LB put him at 10% health did not kill him and he healed his hp back to 100% and ran away like nothing happened.ced and stunned but that didn't help one bit.

A Scholar can do that just as easily.

Telling you right now I was barely scratching them on dragoon doing and even ninja on our team was damaging it and said after our team lost that AST is OP

One DPS on a healer is barely going to tickle. Two DPS and and you might need to use one off-global-cooldown ability. Three or more DPS and you're going to want to get out of there or CC them, but you can still survive the encounter relatively easily. If you have an entire party focused targeting you, co-ordinated with their best abilities ready to let loose on you, you're toast.

Your situation sounds like a fairly common problem where a group will go up to two healers and half the party will start attacking one, the other half will attack the other, then when each person sees their targeted healer isn't dying, they switch to the other healer and then neither healer dies because nobody is sticking to one target. In that situation the two healers are easily going to be able to top off who ever is currently taking the most damage. This isn't something unique to Astrologians, that's just how (smart) healers are in PVP.

[Slib]

Can we buff WHM up to SCH/AST levels for PvP though? >.>

WHM doesn't need a buff at all in PvP. Especially Seal Rock...I find them to be much stronger than Astro and SCH at 60. The only thing I love about Astro in seal rock PvP over WHM is easily surviving Melee LB's because of instant shields.

[Tarta]

That's like saying can we buff BLM to SMN level. WHM is completely fine.

Can we though?