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    Player Beckett's Avatar
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    Beckard Arseneau
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeonx View Post
    Really cause 3 people were beating on one astro and even one LB put him at 10% health did not kill him and he healed his hp back to 100% and ran away like nothing happened.ced and stunned but that didn't help one bit.
    A Scholar can do that just as easily.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zeonx View Post
    Telling you right now I was barely scratching them on dragoon doing and even ninja on our team was damaging it and said after our team lost that AST is OP
    One DPS on a healer is barely going to tickle. Two DPS and and you might need to use one off-global-cooldown ability. Three or more DPS and you're going to want to get out of there or CC them, but you can still survive the encounter relatively easily. If you have an entire party focused targeting you, co-ordinated with their best abilities ready to let loose on you, you're toast.

    Your situation sounds like a fairly common problem where a group will go up to two healers and half the party will start attacking one, the other half will attack the other, then when each person sees their targeted healer isn't dying, they switch to the other healer and then neither healer dies because nobody is sticking to one target. In that situation the two healers are easily going to be able to top off who ever is currently taking the most damage. This isn't something unique to Astrologians, that's just how (smart) healers are in PVP.
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    Last edited by Beckett; 11-25-2015 at 10:10 AM.

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    As Houston said, coordination is the key to killing healers (especially AST). Was your DPS sprinting to hit every single GCD? How good was the burst? Was the tank keeping the other AST busy? Burn ASTs long cooldowns (Lightspeed, Celestial Opp) and wait til they use Essential Dignity and get that burst going again.
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    Makani Risvertasashi
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    Can we buff WHM up to SCH/AST levels for PvP though? >.>
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    Quote Originally Posted by Risvertasashi View Post
    Can we buff WHM up to SCH/AST levels for PvP though? >.>
    That's like saying can we buff BLM to SMN level. WHM is completely fine.
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    Tarta Le'marzipan
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    Quote Originally Posted by xxczx View Post
    That's like saying can we buff BLM to SMN level. WHM is completely fine.
    Can we though?
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    wow Tarta
    so man
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    much scarry

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tarta View Post
    Can we though?
    you will keep your interrupts and you will like it!
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    Iagainsti Kilamanjiro
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    Quote Originally Posted by Risvertasashi View Post
    Can we buff WHM up to SCH/AST levels for PvP though? >.>
    Currently, WHM and SCH have a High skill ceiling, as in the better you are the more you can get out of it. AST, like the current SMN, have low skill ceilings as in they can easily be played very well without needing that much play experience. So no, those classes do not need a buff; players just need to learn through multiple matches(experience) how to deal with those classes.
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    Makani Risvertasashi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iagainsti View Post
    Currently, WHM and SCH have a High skill ceiling, as in the better you are the more you can get out of it. AST, like the current SMN, have low skill ceilings as in they can easily be played very well without needing that much play experience. So no, those classes do not need a buff; players just need to learn through multiple matches(experience) how to deal with those classes.
    Have to disagree here. No matter how skilled the player, WHM will always have a high focus on casting and thus be most susceptible to CC and even regular attack interrupts. If anything the job depends much more on the party than the WHM themself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Risvertasashi View Post
    Have to disagree here. No matter how skilled the player, WHM will always have a high focus on casting and thus be most susceptible to CC and even regular attack interrupts. If anything the job depends much more on the party than the WHM themself.
    WHM is fine, yes it has a High skill ceiling. And both SCH/AST depend on their party aswell.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Houston009 View Post
    WHM is fine, yes it has a High skill ceiling. And both SCH/AST depend on their party aswell.
    not nearly to the same extent. AST is probably strongest but even SCH has a strong advantage over WHM.
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