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  1. #121
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    Remus's Avatar
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    Robas Kebas
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    Quote Originally Posted by RiceisNice View Post
    Other scenarios such as void ark, praetorium, and I believe Ramuh references the Warriors of Light, as well as you bringing in a party of elite adventurerers/sell swords.
    Ramuh doesn't reference as warriors of light or bringing a party with you he only says Bringer of Light meaning just you. It's a trial for you alone as the Bringer of Light trying to make peace between the sylphs and gridanians. People were only there because its a MMO.
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    Last edited by Remus; 11-18-2015 at 02:42 AM.

  2. #122
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    Aurelius Lyon
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    Quote Originally Posted by KyahAlmasy View Post
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    I understand, and yes, I always did find it dumb that the adventurer does nothing at all in scenes.

    At this point I really do not mind it any more, but that's just me. Personally, I don't like being that typical hero everyone counts on and expect protection from, but a hero that also has their limits, but I know others wouldn't want to be the latter in scenes.

    The hero could've done something with that particular scene, sure, but he did confront derplander but was interrupted.
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  3. #123
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    Kurohime Ryutsuki
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    If heroes have their limits then they should not have hyped us up in the way they did at the end of 3.0.
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  4. #124
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gaiussenpai View Post
    If heroes have their limits then they should not have hyped us up in the way they did at the end of 3.0.
    Even those with power "nearing or surpassing the realm of gods" or whatever have their limits. An example is Hydaelyn.
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  5. #125
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    Seraphus Highwynn
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    The issue is that Square doesn't want to control your character.
    Mostly this^

    Because SE doesn't know if you are RPing a pacifist WHM who only heals and never uses offensive magic, for example.
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  6. #126
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    Gungrave Hellsing
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    Quote Originally Posted by dinnertime View Post
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    and thats the point i was making shes a whitemage but all of a sudden she get a skill that has not been seen up to this point because the plot calls for it, but yet my character cant stop a single charging war? please as a mch he should of detonated a grenade in his face.
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  7. #127
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    Quote Originally Posted by XgungraveX View Post
    and thats the point i was making shes a whitemage but all of a sudden she get a skill that has not been seen up to this point because the plot calls for it, but yet my character cant stop a single charging war? please as a mch he should of detonated a grenade in his face.
    She's not a White Mage, she's a Conjurer.
    And being a Sharlayan scholar (No, not the job), she might have more knowledge on spells, maybe even lost, forbidden or even own-invented spells or whatnot.
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  8. #128
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    Kyah Almasy
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    Quote Originally Posted by dinnertime View Post
    I understand, and yes, I always did find it dumb that the adventurer does nothing at all in scenes.

    At this point I really do not mind it any more, but that's just me. Personally, I don't like being that typical hero everyone counts on and expect protection from, but a hero that also has their limits, but I know others wouldn't want to be the latter in scenes.

    The hero could've done something with that particular scene, sure, but he did confront derplander but was interrupted.
    Having limitations, and even weaknesses is OKAY, it's what fleshes a character out. But those weaknesses have to make sense, and align with the story, not shoehorned in as a poor disguise because Square is either lazy or doesn't want to infract on headcanon. It was poorly thought-out to hype our characters like they have if they are going to portray them use helpless in scenes like this. It pulls everyone from their immersion, because it's such a blatant eyesore to anyone paying attention to the story.

    The hero didn't confront the derplander, it's the other way around; the derplander confronted us. We as the hero could have been replaced with a goat, and had as much of an impact in that scene as we did. It's gotten to the point where it's almost embarrassing to watch.

    Perhaps it's something we learn to live with, but Square isn't making it easy with scenes like this. At least break the scene and allow us to fight briefly against them with Y'shtola, Alph, and Krile. Give us SOME sort of interaction. That whole entire scene was just so poorly orchestrated that threads like this were BOUND to begin popping up on the forums.
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  9. #129
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    Quote Originally Posted by KyahAlmasy View Post
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    Now that I think about it, they could've made every job have their own way to deal with situations in scenes.

    But anyway, it really doesn't matter to me. We've always been involved in the story as this mighty hero, I find that people are being kind of whiny that they never look very cool in cutscenes when you look cool fighting evil things outside cutscenes, which is most of the game. I understand why people are so upset though.
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  10. #130
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    Gungrave Hellsing
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    Quote Originally Posted by dinnertime View Post
    She's not a White Mage, she's a Conjurer.
    And being a Sharlayan scholar (No, not the job), she might have more knowledge on spells, maybe even lost, forbidden or even own-invented spells or whatnot.
    eh make since but im just tired my character being treated like some new adventure in which hes not. its gets real old when something mayor goes down and hes just stands there confused.
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