why during cutscene its always like this ... (small spoiler)

[KyahAlmasy]

Just because our character is powerful doesn't necessarily mean that we don't need any help either, just sayin'.

Fight 5 of the Warriors of Darkness? Good luck doing that alone without your adventurer friends you queue with for duties.

And yes, our character doesn't do much in cutscenes but I believe it's a simple solution. To how every individual player would want their character to react to things, they instead made the character not show much at all.
Giving the character choices how to react is another, but it'll be an illusion of choice anyway, done simply for "immersion".

There's a vast difference in needing help from our friends, and doing nothing at all. So 5 Warriors of Darkness attack us and Y'shtola is the ONLY one who can react fast enough? No, not us right? Not the Warrior of Light who can sense danger and has culled ferocious primals all on our own according to the story. Both Thancred AND Y'shtola react before the WoL does anything. That's very inconsistent with what the story is making us out to be.

I know that Square doesn't want to step on toes when it comes to headcanon for each person's individual character, but the overt amount of "nothing" our character does begins to do just that. That sort of aloof, spaciness becomes a unwanted characteristic of our character that violates the canon the game has set for us. Even players with headcanon have to allow inconsistencies to their ideas to conform to the plot of the game, so honestly why would this be any different?

[Neophyte]

Just becauseour character is powerful doesn\\\\'t necessarily mean that we don\\\\'t need any help either, just sayin\\\\'.

Fight 5 of the Warriors of Darkness? Good luck doing that alone without your adventurer friends you queue with for duties.

And yes, our character doesn\\\\'t do much in cutscenes but I believe it\\\\'s a simple solution. To how every individual player would want their character to react to things, they instead made the character not show much at all.
Giving the character choices how to react is another, but it\\\\'ll be an illusion of choice anyway, done simply for "immersion".

THIS. If I see my SMN fight I expect something like DoTs/Trisaster, Fester on derpy, Bane on all WoD, Painflare too and then bahamuth kicks in with DWT and deathflare.
GL blocking those spells WoD.. hope Miasma don\\'t make you vomit.
And be careful, my Egi\\'s sneaking up on you from behind.. ENKINDLE, MUHAHA..

I don\\'t want to get some etheric lightswords or shields pulled out of my a** which I can\\'t utilize outside of cutscenes, without a proper explanation. Why do we fight with our class-skills at all when we could use those superpowers all the time?
Like when we did a block like Y\\'shtola I would be curios why I can\\'t do that while in normal battle, I mean SMN has no defensive CD so it would be useful.

[KyahAlmasy]

THIS. If I see my SMN fight I expect something like DoTs/Trisaster, Fester on derpy, Bane on all WoD, Painflare too and then bahamuth kicks in with DWT and deathflare.
GL blocking those spells WoD.. hope Miasma don\\'t make you vomit.
And be careful, my Egi\\'s sneaking up on you from behind.. ENKINDLE, MUHAHA..

I don\\'t want to get some etheric lightswords or shields pulled out of my a** which I can\\'t utilize outside of cutscenes, without a proper explanation. Why do we fight with our class-skills at all when we could use those superpowers all the time?
Like when we did a block like Y\\'shtola I would be curios why I can\\'t do that while in normal battle, I mean SMN has no defensive CD so it would be useful.

But your character HAS used an Aetheric lightsword, on numerous occasions actually. We used one to destroy the Ascian Igeyorhm this very patch. I'm curious as to why THAT doesn't bother you, but the idea of our character using one against the Derplander would? If you're actually enjoying the story, and paying attention, why would your character acting in a way completely align within their arsenal of abilities bother you?

And Hydaelyn grants us succor, or power whenever she deems we need it. Hence why you don't randomly get a Hydaelyn shield in Coils or Alex like you did when the Ultimate Weapon used Ultima on us. Your jobs abilities aren't the only ones your character has, and one of the largest reasons our character has grown so strong isn't due to our jobs abilities but the power of light bestowed upon us. As you saw when we first encountered Igeyorhm without the power of light, she easily dealt with us, and was only UNABLE to kill us because we had regained some of the blessing back.

And also previously with Nabriales, our character didn't even posses enough power to destroy him without Moenbryda's sacrifice. As the story progressed we gained an even stronger version of the Blessing of Light, and grew even more powerful than Thordan; An ideology supplemented with generations of worship and fervent prayer. The echo is a very strong device, and has been acknowledge as our strongest weapon of choice.

How can you honestly sit there and say that your character wouldn't use the echo, when he has used in so many times in the past. Either you're not paying attention to the story, and are skipping cutscenes. (To which, I don't know why you're even commenting if you do.) or B. Have a very short attention span.

[RiceisNice]

But your character HAS used an Aetheric lightsword, on numerous occasions actually. We used one to destroy the Ascian Igeyorhm this very patch. I'm curious as to why THAT doesn't bother you, but the idea of our character using one against the Derplander would? If you're actually enjoying the story, and paying attention, why would your character acting in a way completely align within their arsenal of abilities bother you?
n.

To add to this, the one you used on Igeyorhm does not resemble a sword in the slightest, but rather a beam of energy. The one time your "blade of light" matched your job was in the opening cutscene and the first encounter with Lahabrea in Pratetorium (and even then, DRK, MCH, AST and I believe NIN get shafted in this regard because they use the paladin place-holder). The other two occasions is the same concept as a blade of light, but it was depicted as a beam of energy.

[dinnertime]

or i dont know throw up a magic shield to block attack?

There's not even a single spell that blocks attacks, only spells that mitigate.

If that was implemented, you know people would be like "why can't I do the same thing during actual fights " just like with Y'shtola's bubble shield(which was easily penetrated by that PLD)

"Use the Blessing/Echo" if only the adventurer even knew how to use it.

[RiceisNice]

There's not even a single spell that blocks attacks, only spells that mitigate.

If that was implemented, you know people would be like "why can't I do the same thing during actual fights " just like with Y'shtola's bubble shield(which was easily penetrated by that PLD)

"Use the Blessing/Echo" if only the adventurer even knew how to use it.

Funny enough, one common example is when Hot-Chocolate guy took a spear for you and died to it. If you ever tried to take it at that current place and time (level 57 and no blessing of light), you would've been dead on the spot. No amount of healing would have helped either.

[XgungraveX]

There's not even a single spell that blocks attacks, only spells that mitigate.

If that was implemented, you know people would be like "why can't I do the same thing during actual fights " just like with Y'shtola's bubble shield(which was easily penetrated by that PLD)

"Use the Blessing/Echo" if only the adventurer even knew how to use it.

looks like a spell is being use to block a pld attack to me, you to mean me that a player chapters who are the master is of all magics can do the same spell or something more powerful or cant because the game says so....

[SendohJin]

looks like a spell is being use to block a pld attack to me, you to mean me that a player chapters who are the master is of all magics can do the same spell or something more powerful or cant because the game says so....

what class/job and what level is that spelled learned?

[dinnertime]

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Just my thoughts. I'm not passing it off as unimportant. With alot of people who want their character to react to scenes, and how the outcome goes exactly the same depending on what choice you make (since I doubt an MMO story would let you have a good/bad ending route or such), they might as well give the adventurer the "silent protagonist" trope, and it becomes lazy.

Believe me, I'd like involvement in my character as well during cutscenes but I see why they went with that, because it's the easiest way to deal with it.

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I wasn't comparing our companion's aid from doing nothing.
And that's not the kind of reaction I was talking about at all. What I meant was what reaction the individual adventurer would show depending on their character, personality, etc.

I don't really care who reacts first. Both of them are experienced in combat as well and just because we're a mighty hero doesn't necessarily mean we can do everything and everything better than others either.

Also, was it confirmed that we fought the primals alone or with other adventurers because i'm not sure about that.

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We don't even know what that spell is and it's definitely not something we can do.

[KyahAlmasy]

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Not doing anything at all, is just as bad as doing far too much, especially when it's inconsistent with the canon of the game. Anyone who has an idea of how their character acts/personality etc is going to have their toes steps on in the story, it's inevitable, it's WHY we're paying to play this game. No one wants our character to suddenly develop a whole new personality in cutscenes, we just want our character to act like the character who's actually championed these causes, not some hapless bystander.

But it does matter who reacts first, or in this case, who reacts at all. It's all indicative of our character. And that's the thing, we are experienced in combat, FAR more than Y'shtola and Thancred. But heck, for arguments sake, even if we werent stronger than them, any warrior with experience in combat would have at least reacted after arrows fell. But we didn't, literally almost everyone in the scene responded before us. The paladin, The Black Mage, the Derplander, Y'shtola, and Thancred. You would think, the vaunted warrior of light, savior of the realm could have done something? Heck, anything? And that doesn't ring odd with you?

Yes, we fought the primals alone. It's confirmed in the story numerous times. From our character standing alone in the aftermath of each fight, to which the Ascians always credit us solely with it's defeat and no mention of a team, to the scene after we face the derplander where Alph expresses his surprise that there is anyone else besides us capable of culling a primal, and if there was we would have known about it.