New Shield Swipe - role is reversed?

[Freyyy]

I guess it is after you ppl influenced the change in this game... It's only irrelevant for ppl who didn't care about the dynamics of this game and just wanted things to be simple. It's rude to say someone's opinion is irrelevant.

When someone's opinion goes completely against what has been proved to be the very truth, it is irrelevant. Even when DEX did affect block and parry, it was so, SO weak, and scaled SO poorly that it made almost NO difference at all. Believing so strongly that it did make so much of a difference that wearing DEX jewelry was a viable gearing decision vs STR or VIT is bullshitting yourself in a pretty brutal way. They just deleted an already useless feature. People here are trying to make you understand that, but you keep rejecting all the arguments in a very inappropriate way without really trying to understand the truth. THIS is rude and makes you look bad, thus making people react rude with you like I did.

[Pileus_Storm]

So you're reiterating someone else's theory and not your own. Never done it yourself. LMAOLAMF

[Freyyy]

You have the tendency to make false assumptions about people you don't know anything about, and that's also why people are reacting rude with you. Now leave please, I'm not gonna waste anymore time to answer you.

[Sapphidia]

So you're reiterating someone else's theory and not your own. Never done it yourself. LMAOLAMF

There were many studies done into the relative effect of Dexterity on block and parry rates. The rate at which 1 point of Dexterity increased your block and parry was -tiny-. Going full Dex in every available slot back in 2.0 would have had only a small percentage increase in boost to the relative rate.

You can't say "well I did it and it worked" because you can't argue with the maths. You could tank instances in leather or cloth armor and not die and say "it worked" but everyone knows plate would be better. Yes, I'm sure you probably did tank with full Dex and blocked 4-5% more hits than someone else, but at the cost of less damage or less block amount or less vitality. It's small tradeoffs, and the maths very much said that the boost to efficiency from stacking Dex over just about ANY other stat was almost negligible.

There's nothing more to say. Dex stacking was bad. Well done if you managed to tank fine with dex everywhere, and I fully understand the desire to want to be different and want to specialise your paladin into mitigation... but the maths on the amount that Dexterity boosted the mitigation rate just made it awful. Yes, in socketable armor where the Str and Vit were maxed out, Dex was the only primary stat you could socket, but Crit and Det both would have been available in these slots and would make a bigger impact.

Fact is : if you'd swapped out all that Dex for Crit, or Det, or anything, you would have had basically the same survivability but done noticeably more damage. You were needlessly nerfing your own performance but you can't see this because you assume that "it worked" therefore your way was fine. It wasnt. Dex was always, ALWAYS, a terrible stat to stack. It increased your block and parry, yes, but by such a teeny tiny amount it was never worth it.

Shame really, as I wish it was. I'd have loved to be a mass-blocking Dex tank if it actually mattered. You're living in a fantasy world though if you honestly think it did.

Also what the hell happened to this thread, it was a mild musing about Shield Swipe at the start of 3.0 until it was necroed into this overt trollfest of terrible recommendations.

[Myric]

Also what the hell happened to this thread, it was a mild musing about Shield Swipe at the start of 3.0 until it was necroed into this overt trollfest of terrible recommendations.

People keep responding back to his idiocy and feed his trolling. He always needs the last word so let him make some other dumb statement and let the thread go back to the grave.

[Pileus_Storm]

You have the tendency to make false assumptions about people you don't know anything about, and that's also why people are reacting rude with you. Now leave please, I'm not gonna waste anymore time to answer you.

None of you should've responded to me if you didn't like my comments. All I did was comment my experience not a test.